Applying PR: Should we wait or?

[lfo_24]

Hi all,

We are Indonesian couple who will be expecting a baby very soon.

Here are some info:
Husband: Indonesian Chinese
Status: Married in SG (June 2013)
Age: 28
Education: MBA
Visa Status: Long Term Visit Pass
Working Exp: Currently running his Indo business from SG

Wife: Indonesian Chinese
Status: Married in SG (June 2013)
Age: 28
Education: MBA
Residential Status: PR since 2008 with one renewal REP
Working Exp in SG: 5yrs with last drawn salary Basic 2,500 and Gross 3,800

When the baby is born, we are thinking of applying PR together with my husband. In my opinion, perhaps it will be easier for the baby to apply, but not so for my husband since we are only married for 1 year.
My questions:
a. Is there a requirement for the husband to be at least married to SPR for 2 years before applying PR?
b. Should we wait for PR application for both my husband and baby? Or, should we go ahead with the PR application for the baby and then husband to show that we seriously want to stay in Singapore.

Appreciate if expert contributors can weigh on this matter. Thank you so much beforehand for all of your contributions.

[ecureilx]

Hi all,

We are Indonesian couple who will be expecting a baby very soon.

Here are some info:
Husband: Indonesian Chinese
Status: Married in SG (June 2013)
..

Wife: Indonesian Chinese
Status: Married in SG (June 2013)
..
.

it is interesting to know both of you married in the same year

that was tongue in cheek ..

re your question, while I would say until you apply you don't know .. past stories favoured those who have been married for 3 years atleast ...

that you got long term for him so fast may tilt things in your favour, if you apply sooner .. I think ...

[beppi]

Very low salary on your part!
Do you know that, under the current rules, you need at least S$4000/month to sponsor visa family members as dependants?
You probably got LTVP for your husband under the old rules (and it continues to be valid until you change job), but you will have problems getting one for your kid!

[x9200]

The 4k rule is for the work pass holders, here we have a PR, but the salary is indeed low and to get the LTVP the threshold was~2k8. Maybe they counted gross in this case.

OP: I would wait till you have a kid and your marriage millage is +2y.

[beppi]

The 4k rule is for the work pass holders, here we have a PR

Sorry, I overlooked this important fact.
x9200 is right in that case.

[lfo_24]

So x9200, in that case, should I go ahead with the PR application for the baby first? To show that we are serious about staying here.

or, I wait till my husband reach the 2 yrs milleage then applying PR together for the baby and him?

[the lynx]

So x9200, in that case, should I go ahead with the PR application for the baby first? To show that we are serious about staying here.

or, I wait till my husband reach the 2 yrs milleage then applying PR together for the baby and him?

Question: Has your husband been rejected for PR application before?

If not, ideally apply for both. Wait until your baby is born and then try applying for both of them. If not, at least your husband already has LTVP and you can consider applying LTVP for your baby (but it will be tricky since that will be two dependants for you).

[lfo_24]

No my husband has not applied for PR before.
Thank you for the advice the lynx.

Got another scenario, does anything change if the scenario is I, myself, apply Citizenship for myself and the baby?
Anyway, we are thinking of staying here long term and becoming citizen is always the plan.

Questions:
1. Do I stand the chance of applying citizenship together with the baby now?
2. Do I ask my husband to apply for PR at the same time as my citizenship application to show that we seriously want to stay here? (the drawback is probably only we have not been married for 2 years+)

Thank you in advance.

[sundaymorningstaple]

Applying for Citizenship singly or with the baby while married will almost certainly be rejected as ICA will wonder why you are not applying as a family unit, First thing that springs to mind is marriage of convenience. Not me, but ICA. They tend to think the worst possible case scenario. Wait and do it properly. Otherwise, you could get yourself caught up in no-man's land. Not a good place to be on this island.

[lfo_24]

Well thank you for the advice, SMS! Would love to apply as a whole family, but unable to due to husband residential status... We will see how it goes then... Thx

[PNGMK]

This will be a big red flag if picked up. It needs to be normalized ASAP.

Working Exp: Currently running his Indo business from SG

[neolaw]

Sorry for hijacking this thread. I think my situation is similar (well not exact, it is just similar) as my girlfriend is a PR and I'm not.

My wife (to be in November '14): Burmese (Myanmar) PR working. Salary above 4K (before bonus and AWS). SG Government Uni Master Degree.

Me : Burmese EP holder. Salary above 4K (before bonus and AWS). SG Government Uni PhD. Working in an government research institute having a website ending with xxx.yyy.edu.sg but got PR rejected as single (in June '14).

Good idea for me to apply PR (again) in 2015 or wait longer?

Update: well, we may not have a baby in 2015 (these things need blessing, right?)

No idea is stupid. I would humbly ask your suggestions, speculations and ideas/alternatives.

[taxico]

Sorry for hijacking this thread. I think my situation is similar (well not exact, it is just similar) as my girlfriend is a PR and I'm not.

My wife (to be in November '14): Burmese (Myanmar) PR working. Salary above 4K (before bonus and AWS). SG Government Uni Master Degree.

Me : Burmese EP holder. Salary above 4K (before bonus and AWS). SG Government Uni PhD. Working in an government research institute having a website ending with xxx.yyy.edu.sg but got PR rejected as single (in June '14).

Good idea for me to apply PR (again) in 2015 or wait longer?

Update: well, we may not have a baby in 2015 (these things need blessing, right?)

No idea is stupid. I would humbly ask your suggestions, speculations and ideas/alternatives.

it may be helpful for the other member s to know both your age/age range also.

[niceit198]

Questions:
1. Do I stand the chance of applying citizenship together with the baby now? Do your baby born ? after born if u are not citizen and your baby will not grant citizen on born in SG

[neolaw]

Sorry for hijacking this thread. I think my situation is similar (well not exact, it is just similar) as my girlfriend is a PR and I'm not.

My wife (to be in November '14): Burmese (Myanmar) PR working. Salary above 4K (before bonus and AWS). SG Government Uni Master Degree.

Me : Burmese EP holder. Salary above 4K (before bonus and AWS). SG Government Uni PhD. Working in an government research institute having a website ending with xxx.yyy.edu.sg but got PR rejected as single (in June '14).

Good idea for me to apply PR (again) in 2015 or wait longer?

Update: well, we may not have a baby in 2015 (these things need blessing, right?)

No idea is stupid. I would humbly ask your suggestions, speculations and ideas/alternatives.

it may be helpful for the other member s to know both your age/age range also.

Thanks for reply. Both of us are 30.