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Postby JR8 » Fri, 11 Jul 2014 9:40 am

Trouble is you don't get a social nirvanaship (nirvana/dictatorship) without losing your freedoms.

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Postby x9200 » Fri, 11 Jul 2014 11:44 am

ecureilx wrote:example, a local dignitary was caught on more than one phone camera doing a terrible thing ...

when the news spread, the said gentleman's legal camp started their defence with the words like this .... 'if the alleged incident really happened we like to seek a settlement, and for my client to be proven guilty I would like the court to make the recordings and the recording instruments to be submitted for forensic verification .... '

basically even a hundred pair of eyes saw the crime, a few phones recorded it, but by twisting the legal system the said dignitary is not bothered to even admit the crime ... because legally they are innocent

I would add Marcos JR too who famously declared that he is ready to be the next president of Philippines since the family is innocent because ... there are no more cases pending .... all cases were dismantled by making witnesses or evidences disappear or simplest solution for some cases was either the statute of limitation simply expired or, the defense proved the case filing process was wrong ...

and Philippines justice system I believe is largely based on US system


It is not about the legal system but maturity of the political arena. In probably all modern legal systems you are only guilty if found guilty under this legal system. TV/media evidence does not make anybody guilty in the legal sense. The huge difference between the mature Western democracies (and such) is that majority of the politician confronted by the evidence would more-less voluntarily step down without being formally convicted. For immature democracies (and such) and this probably include all the post-communistic countries, they will hold to the power as long as they can regardless the evidence.

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Postby maneo » Fri, 25 Jul 2014 12:20 am

uscate wrote:Stuff like this makes me VERY glad I'm not raising children here….what an uphill battle!

Came to SG in the 90s specifically to raise our child in a safe environment.
Looking back, it was a good decision.


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