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Postby JR8 » Tue, 08 Jul 2014 7:59 pm

PNGMK wrote:
JR8 wrote:Er.... 'micro-managed social experiment'... seeking to create a version of a Utopia ?


+1. You are referring to a country that was set up by a man who is an outspoken fan of Eugenics and Social Engineering.


Freedom of speech is not included, naturally.

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Postby zzm9980 » Wed, 09 Jul 2014 2:25 am

JR8 wrote:
rajagainstthemachine wrote: lived where? :-|


Not everybody knows or remembers that ZZM no longer lives in SG, but has 'gone home'. In that context the comment makes perfect sense. HTH.


p.s. Z's 'location' shows SG too, so it is a little confusing.



Happy la?

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Re: PR rejected 4 times

Postby ecureilx » Wed, 09 Jul 2014 7:20 am

ahdahboo wrote:
ecureilx wrote:
PNGMK wrote:[]

What do your aged parents back home in VN have to do with PR in Singapore? Zero benefit to them as a far as I can see?

Good luck in Sydney.


I too don't get the connection between parents in VN vs SG PR ..

anyway if OP had made a baby, the chances would have multiplied ....

To OP.

why aren't making no baby?


That is a lot of BS to begin with, we only plan to have a baby after settling down with housing and PR (you know, it allows you to work part time while taking care of your family). Forcing one to produce a baby just for the sake of getting PR is a seriously distorted point of view.

We love babies by the way, but only after we could afford our first home. We could not just produce one with me not being able to work part time on my PR and give the kid a shit life competing with everyone at school (too bad we don't meet the policy's expectation of racking millions and are happy with one and a half income)


my 2 cents from what I have seen happen to Asean girls married to Singaporeans

applied long term pass rejected, repeatedly or given long term on a yearly basis. these girls aren't graduates btw.

girl got pregnant and delivered, child- regardless male or female child, mother out of the blue got LT VP+ and soon PR or directly next step citizen, because child is a citizen because of father ...

while you have a plan, I believe ICA has another plan.... make a Singaporean child and all falls into place including super subsidized Housing, vs partially subsided if you aren't an SC .. and minus child ...

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Postby ecureilx » Wed, 09 Jul 2014 7:22 am

zzm9980 wrote:
JR8 wrote:
rajagainstthemachine wrote: lived where? :-|


Not everybody knows or remembers that ZZM no longer lives in SG, but has 'gone home'. In that context the comment makes perfect sense. HTH.


p.s. Z's 'location' shows SG too, so it is a little confusing.



Happy la?


i thought it should be happy ah????

:twisted:

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Postby JR8 » Wed, 09 Jul 2014 8:30 am

ecureilx wrote:
zzm9980 wrote:
JR8 wrote:
rajagainstthemachine wrote: lived where? :-|


p.s. Z's 'location' shows SG too, so it is a little confusing.


Happy la?


i thought it should be happy ah????
:twisted:


Either way I'm positively thrilled :lol: :wink:

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Postby nakatago » Wed, 09 Jul 2014 12:09 pm

JR8 wrote:
ecureilx wrote:
zzm9980 wrote:
JR8 wrote:
rajagainstthemachine wrote: lived where? :-|


p.s. Z's 'location' shows SG too, so it is a little confusing.


Happy la?


i thought it should be happy ah????
:twisted:


Either way I'm positively thrilled :lol: :wink:



I'm feeling quite chuffed me self.

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Postby JR8 » Wed, 09 Jul 2014 12:12 pm

nakatago wrote:
JR8 wrote:
ecureilx wrote:
zzm9980 wrote:
JR8 wrote:
rajagainstthemachine wrote: lived where? :-|


p.s. Z's 'location' shows SG too, so it is a little confusing.


Happy la?


i thought it should be happy ah????
:twisted:


Either way I'm positively thrilled :lol: :wink:



I'm feeling quite chuffed me self.


Quietly pleased.

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Postby martincymru » Tue, 29 Jul 2014 9:23 am

"Social Engineering" Is that the same as racism?

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Postby nakatago » Tue, 29 Jul 2014 9:28 am

martincymru wrote:"Social Engineering" Is that the same as racism?


It's the practice of enacting certain policies, methods or activities to achieve a desired outcome from the behavior of people.

For example, tricking people into revealing their passwords is considered social engineering. So is flashing certain videos before a movie in a theater so that people will put their phones on silent.

So is enacting and enforcing policies for decades such that you have a whole citizenry making decisions based on race. That's both institutionalized racism and social engineering.

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Postby PNGMK » Tue, 29 Jul 2014 9:38 am

martincymru wrote:"Social Engineering" Is that the same as racism?


In my view it includes a lot more than institutionalized racism... it may include age based policies, marital status policies... and the policies include carrot and stick to influence society. An example would be allowing tax deductions for couples (carrot) that are better than those allowed for singles and housing discrimination against single (stick). The gahmen is sending a signal that married couples are preferred to single adults.

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Postby martincymru » Tue, 29 Jul 2014 1:19 pm

when the trend is up up up you can get away with murder (black joke).
(1930's Germany we saw that).
Creates a kind of void that can be exploited.

But when the trend is down down down down, well that's another story.
(uk number 5 previous, now number 12 for example)
(Sg was number 40 now number 3).

Clint Eastwood "Do you feel lucky punk [Män]".
"Not only feel lucky, I am lucky ................... if I settled in Sg 30 years ago..... today my net worth has increased substantially...."

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Re: PR rejected 4 times

Postby hippo84 » Fri, 12 Sep 2014 10:33 pm

ahdahboo wrote:Hi all,

At this point I'm just adding to the statistics. So basically I've been here for seven years, annual income 50k on S pass. I'm married to a Singaporean Chinese but the biggie is I'm holding a Vietnamese passport. He earns about 70k which translatse to a household income of 120k. We've been married for two years and in a de facto relationship for two years before that. Both of us are degree holders, I'm 27, he's 31, in prime years of our life.

Rejected 4 times, no reason indicated. Well I shouldn't have kept my hopes of clamping roots here up too high.

I strongly believe a clear guideline on PR lottery should be published as this whole thing does seem like a wild goose chase to us. This is frustrating and very family unfriendly, so we've taken a bold step and bid farewell to all this tarantantee. It is not about PR approval, it is about fair and transparent practice to all residents alike. It is indeed shady to not lift the curtains up and let those who have been pooled since forever, not knowing if they will ever make it (too much poetry? pardon me)

We're moving to Sydney next year. We'll spend our money somewhere else that welcomes us as a family.


Hello OP, i have almost the same profile as yours. Vietnamese married Chinese Singaporean...after reading ur story, i'm a bit worrying of my next pr application.

My PR application was rejected 3 times (I applied before my marriage). Next year will try to apply again (1 year after my marriage). We alr bought the house (dont know if it help).

I did have same thinking as yours to move to another country since the Goverment make it so difficult for us to build a family in Singapore. I'm currently working in Switzerland (been here 2 months plus and will back Singapore by early Jan next year). Now I changed my mind, I prefer to stay in Singapore. I like the Singapore lifestyle...crowded & busy city :D

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Postby ahdahboo » Sun, 12 Oct 2014 12:21 am

hippo84 wrote:
ahdahboo wrote:Hi all,

At this point I'm just adding to the statistics. So basically I've been here for seven years, annual income 50k on S pass. I'm married to a Singaporean Chinese but the biggie is I'm holding a Vietnamese passport. He earns about 70k which translatse to a household income of 120k. We've been married for two years and in a de facto relationship for two years before that. Both of us are degree holders, I'm 27, he's 31, in prime years of our life.

Rejected 4 times, no reason indicated. Well I shouldn't have kept my hopes of clamping roots here up too high.

I strongly believe a clear guideline on PR lottery should be published as this whole thing does seem like a wild goose chase to us. This is frustrating and very family unfriendly, so we've taken a bold step and bid farewell to all this tarantantee. It is not about PR approval, it is about fair and transparent practice to all residents alike. It is indeed shady to not lift the curtains up and let those who have been pooled since forever, not knowing if they will ever make it (too much poetry? pardon me)

We're moving to Sydney next year. We'll spend our money somewhere else that welcomes us as a family.


Hello OP, i have almost the same profile as yours. Vietnamese married Chinese Singaporean...after reading ur story, i'm a bit worrying of my next pr application.

My PR application was rejected 3 times (I applied before my marriage). Next year will try to apply again (1 year after my marriage). We alr bought the house (dont know if it help).

I did have same thinking as yours to move to another country since the Goverment make it so difficult for us to build a family in Singapore. I'm currently working in Switzerland (been here 2 months plus and will back Singapore by early Jan next year). Now I changed my mind, I prefer to stay in Singapore. I like the Singapore lifestyle...crowded & busy city :D


Well good luck then. I just don't fancy the idea of having lived in a place for 7 years and not even considered a permanent resident, let alone entertaining the thought of an uncertain future.

Update: I have a job offer in Sydney now, and it's paying me much more handsome, upon applying for Visa 457, we were advised to apply under direct stream for PR... so let's see... one thing I can safely say, it surely feels much more like home when you're accepted

Cheers

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Postby Wd40 » Sun, 12 Oct 2014 1:14 am

ahdahboo wrote:
hippo84 wrote:
ahdahboo wrote:Hi all,

At this point I'm just adding to the statistics. So basically I've been here for seven years, annual income 50k on S pass. I'm married to a Singaporean Chinese but the biggie is I'm holding a Vietnamese passport. He earns about 70k which translatse to a household income of 120k. We've been married for two years and in a de facto relationship for two years before that. Both of us are degree holders, I'm 27, he's 31, in prime years of our life.

Rejected 4 times, no reason indicated. Well I shouldn't have kept my hopes of clamping roots here up too high.

I strongly believe a clear guideline on PR lottery should be published as this whole thing does seem like a wild goose chase to us. This is frustrating and very family unfriendly, so we've taken a bold step and bid farewell to all this tarantantee. It is not about PR approval, it is about fair and transparent practice to all residents alike. It is indeed shady to not lift the curtains up and let those who have been pooled since forever, not knowing if they will ever make it (too much poetry? pardon me)

We're moving to Sydney next year. We'll spend our money somewhere else that welcomes us as a family.


Hello OP, i have almost the same profile as yours. Vietnamese married Chinese Singaporean...after reading ur story, i'm a bit worrying of my next pr application.

My PR application was rejected 3 times (I applied before my marriage). Next year will try to apply again (1 year after my marriage). We alr bought the house (dont know if it help).

I did have same thinking as yours to move to another country since the Goverment make it so difficult for us to build a family in Singapore. I'm currently working in Switzerland (been here 2 months plus and will back Singapore by early Jan next year). Now I changed my mind, I prefer to stay in Singapore. I like the Singapore lifestyle...crowded & busy city :D


Well good luck then. I just don't fancy the idea of having lived in a place for 7 years and not even considered a permanent resident, let alone entertaining the thought of an uncertain future.

Update: I have a job offer in Sydney now, and it's paying me much more handsome, upon applying for Visa 457, we were advised to apply under direct stream for PR... so let's see... one thing I can safely say, it surely feels much more like home when you're accepted

Cheers


Awesome! Congrats man!


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