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'The Good Country Index'

Postby JR8 » Wed, 25 Jun 2014 9:34 am

... another approach to ranking the relative 'success' of the world's countries.
http://www.goodcountry.org/overall

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'Welcome to the Good Country website and the Good Country Index, a new way of looking at the world.

The idea of the Good Country Index is pretty simple: to measure what each country on earth contributes to the common good of humanity, and what it takes away. Using a wide range of data from the U.N. and other international organisations, we’ve given each country a balance-sheet to show at a glance whether it’s a net creditor to mankind, a burden on the planet, or something in between.

It’s important to explain that we are not making any moral judgments about countries. What I mean by a Good Country is something much simpler: it’s a country that contributes to the greater good.
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Postby Beeroclock » Wed, 25 Jun 2014 10:29 am

had to scroll a long way down to find china ... sandwiched between Pakistan, Sudan and Rwanda ( if it's any consolation at least they are ahead of Rwanda).

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Postby rajagainstthemachine » Wed, 25 Jun 2014 10:55 am

81 on the list! we've got a long way to go *sigh*
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Postby BedokAmerican » Wed, 25 Jun 2014 12:02 pm

Not a surprise to see the Scandinavian countries highly ranked. They usually are near or at the top of most positive "lists."

Singapore ranked 27th of 125.

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Postby zzm9980 » Wed, 25 Jun 2014 12:09 pm

Lots of factors. But just picking a few random ones they seem to make no sense. Singapore beats the US in culture overall, and "Creative Services Export"? WTF is that and wtf creative ever came out of Singapore?

Egypt is number 1 globally for International Peace and Security?

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Postby Mi Amigo » Wed, 25 Jun 2014 3:02 pm

I agree zzm. Much of the data seems to be somewhat arbitrary to me (putting it kindly). For example, Belgium is No. 1 for culture? Nothing against that fine country, but aside from Tin Tin I'm struggling a little to think of their other global cultural exports. OK, Stella Artois, but does that actually count as culture? :wink:

Singapore, along with many other countries, is not graded in certain sub-categories, but that seems to give them a 'free pass' and perhaps result in a higher overall grading in a particular area. For example, Prosperity and Equality, where Singapore is ranked 7th, despite being ungraded in two sub-categories (Fairtrade market size and Development assistance). My guess is that it wouldn't score very highly on those two omitted measures. Prosperity, sure, but equality? Maybe not so much. Again, I'm not trying to 'pick on' specific countries, just highlighting areas that don't seem to ring true based on my own experience (subjective though that may be).

On a positive note, the data is well presented, but my concern is how the data was actually compiled in the first place...

Q: How is the Good Country Index compiled?

A: We have used 35 reliable datasets which track the way that most countries on earth behave: there are five of these in each of seven categories, covering the big issues like education, science, war and peace, trade, culture, health, censorship, the environment, freedom, etc. Most of these datasets are produced by the United Nations and other international agencies, and a few by NGOs and other organisations.

These datasets are combined into a common measure which gives an overall ranking, a ranking in each of the seven categories, and a balance-sheet for each country that shows at a glance how much it contributes to the world and how much it takes away.


... Yes, but who actually did the ranking within the groups that they mention? It seems that, in some cases at least, they just asked a few people what they thought, so I wonder how scientific the overall process actually was.

My conclusion - this 'study' is of limited worth, except as a catalyst for discussions on forums, FB, etc. Sadly I fear that much of the discussion may end up being jingoistic and/or xenophobic.
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Postby Mi Amigo » Wed, 25 Jun 2014 3:13 pm

zzm9980 wrote:Singapore beats the US in culture overall, and "Creative Services Export"? WTF is that and wtf creative ever came out of Singapore?

Didn't they make sound cards for computers?
And what about Vanessa Mae? And, err... you know - that other 'lady'... :twisted:

zzm9980 wrote:Egypt is number 1 globally for International Peace and Security?

Yes, and if you disagree, you will be dealt with severely. :?
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Postby x9200 » Wed, 25 Jun 2014 3:36 pm

Yep, no too much (common) sense at all. Cyprus 3rd in Sci&Tech, Ghana 6th in Prosperity and Equality right before Singapore...probably we miss something and the titles they used mean something different?

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Postby JR8 » Wed, 25 Jun 2014 5:42 pm

Mi Amigo wrote: For example, Belgium is No. 1 for culture? Nothing against that fine country, but aside from Tin Tin I'm struggling a little to think of their other global cultural exports.


Jean-Claude Van Damme, aka 'The Muscles from Brussels'.*

Bloody good beer. Mussels. Chocolate. Plus they invented chips/fries and waffles. Yielded forth artists such as Brueghel (hooray) and Magritte (boo). Oh and did I say mussels and beer ;)

Reminds me of a Monty Python sketch 'What have the Romans ever done for us?'
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExWfh6sGyso
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*http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean-Claude_Van_Damme

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Postby JR8 » Wed, 25 Jun 2014 5:48 pm

Mi Amigo wrote:
zzm9980 wrote: WTF is that and wtf creative ever came out of Singapore?

Didn't they make sound cards for computers?
And what about Vanessa Mae? And, err... you know - that other 'lady'... :twisted:


Creative Labs wasn't that the name of that uber-voracious SGn porn star? [geddit].

Actually didn't she hold the world record for banging out most men in a day or something. Mmmm classy!

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Postby nakatago » Wed, 25 Jun 2014 6:54 pm

JR8 wrote:
Mi Amigo wrote:
zzm9980 wrote: WTF is that and wtf creative ever came out of Singapore?

Didn't they make sound cards for computers?
And what about Vanessa Mae? And, err... you know - that other 'lady'... :twisted:


Creative Labs wasn't that the name of that uber-voracious SGn porn star? [geddit].

Actually didn't she hold the world record for banging out most men in a day or something. Mmmm classy!


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annabelle_chong

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Postby Addadude » Wed, 25 Jun 2014 7:11 pm

If by "Creative Services Export" they'd among winning international awards for creative advertising, then they might have a point. Singapore punches well above it's weight in this case. The fact that all this 'creative award-winning advertising' is done solely for entering awards is another matter.
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Postby JR8 » Wed, 25 Jun 2014 8:14 pm

nakatago wrote:
JR8 wrote:Actually didn't she hold the world record for banging out most men in a day or something. Mmmm classy!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annabelle_chong


Ah yes, that's right!

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'The World's Biggest Gang Bang is a pornographic film staged in a Hollywood studio starring Annabel Chong and billed as her having sex with 300 men. In reality the participants were far fewer than advertised, they are said to have engaged with Chong in a total of 251 sex acts.'
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World%27s_ ... _Gang_Bang
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Singapore #1!!!

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Postby Beeroclock » Wed, 25 Jun 2014 10:43 pm

This forum, as always very educational!


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