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Postby movingtospore » Thu, 19 Jun 2014 8:56 am

This thread just gets funnier and funnier.

We're number 1!!! Did you hear me? REally we are! Number 1!! Haven't you heard of the Singaporean Brand? We are the best!

You sound like a local version of Sarah Palin. About the same level of thinking skills I reckon.

I'm guessing this lot missed that class in critical thinking 101. Oh yeah. They don't teach that here I forgot. :roll:

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Postby nakatago » Thu, 19 Jun 2014 9:02 am

movingtospore wrote:This thread just gets funnier and funnier.

We're number 1!!! Did you hear me? REally we are! Number 1!! Haven't you heard of the Singaporean Brand? We are the best!

You sound like a local version of Sarah Palin. About the same level of thinking skills I reckon.

I'm guessing this lot missed that class in critical thinking 101. Oh yeah. They don't teach that here I forgot. :roll:


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Postby movingtospore » Thu, 19 Jun 2014 9:03 am

Blade wrote:
Derogatory,insulting? you should view some of the anti-Singaporeans sentiments of the web.But we don't go whinging and crying to their Gov.like babies.We too thick skinned lah.



This is truly hysterical. Clearly you missed self-awareness 101 too. I. Wah, wah, wah, f-ing wah. We're number 1! Wahhhhhh! Didn't hear me! Stomp my feet! I said - We're number 1!! Gahmen! Kick the foreigners out! They don't understand! We're number 1, you said so!!! Waahhhhhhhh.

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Postby JR8 » Thu, 19 Jun 2014 9:13 am

@YLF
Academia, like the BBC, are notoriously left-wing in their administration. This manifests itself via a vastly exaggerated policy of 'inclusivity'. Any person perceived to be disadvantaged - a black lesbian transexual blind quadraplegic, being one pinnacle - are indulged; over-indulged in the minds of many.

The BBC practice 'positive discrimination'. That is, they actively hire in order to match the gender and racial mix of the country. Not the best people for the job, rather the 'right balance'. I get quite a culture shock between watching the BBC news in the UK versus watching it abroad. Abroad it's quite old-school, how it used to be. Back home it'll be two news-readers sitting on a red sofa. Newsreader #1, he'll read out one headline, then #2, she'll take her turn, and so on. They'll then have some small-talk side-chat and maybe share a jokey comment. Ah lovely, and no one offended at all [never mind that meanwhile WW3 is on the cusp of being triggered in Iraq].

So yes, a university asking you way too much info re: race, gender, orientation, etc., is not because they're racist, on the contrary. It's so they can indulge anyone considered to be a minority, the precise reverse of your perception! This is also why as you observed but didn't understand, they have zero interest in this data if you're Caucasian. You know, the curse of being a white male...

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Postby ecureilx » Thu, 19 Jun 2014 9:26 am

my belated post re Racism elsewhere or the supposed lack of it

try being a Non-white guy in Europe and elsewhere and you will see Singapore doesn't even come close, says many travelling Asians .., and a few relatives of mine remove all traces of facial hair when heading to US as they swear even a 6 o clock shadow on an Asian = secondary screening ... subject to wait and wait, but doesn't happen to a big bearded Scruffy looking Aussie ....

remember the curry bashings in Australia?

heck, an Aussie family called a house sale off when they found the buyer is non white, and you call racism for refusing to rent to certain races for their past behavior ...

that is stereotyping and not racism

if racism prevails here ... would you see pink Ic Indians / malays / chinese youngsters having drinking sprees (its a different thing that Malays arent supposed to drink ;) )

go and meet more locals .. partially maybe due to NS a lot of locals have strong bond with 'locals' of other races ...

most of the frustration here I still believe is due to influx of foreigners ... and as I said before the Filipino KBWs are busy claiming their superiority and how Singapore Inc will shut down if all Filipinos leave, for a start ... that makes them the favourite target of Singaporean KBWs too ...

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Postby movingtospore » Thu, 19 Jun 2014 9:34 am

I don't think anyone is saying that racism doesn't happen elsewhere. The difference is it is against the law in many developed countries so there are avenues for legal recourse when it does happen.

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Postby JR8 » Thu, 19 Jun 2014 9:39 am

yogaloungeforever wrote: Don't kid me by saying that you can walk down the streets of Europe without being called a chink or paki or you get beaten up for being one. Seriously you are the one here that needs some research on racial discrimination in the UK.

Unless you have been educated in the UK and have applied for jobs there as well, I will rest my case.


What a ridiculous statement! Why do you think many SGns desire to leave this island for the EU/US/Aus etc., that you paint as if hell?

... you got turned down for jobs there? And you've concluded that that was a race thing? Riiiggghhht-ee-oh...

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Postby ecureilx » Thu, 19 Jun 2014 9:44 am

movingtospore wrote:I don't think anyone is saying that racism doesn't happen elsewhere. The difference is it is against the law in many developed countries so there are avenues for legal recourse when it does happen.


legal recourse? of course yesssss

like a famous Indian comedian said ... on every visit of his to USA he gets 'randomly' picked for additional screening by ICE agents ....

it happens Randomly every time ... :P

oh, you can lodge a complaint for being Randomly lucky every time, then what??????

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Postby Wd40 » Thu, 19 Jun 2014 9:47 am

Its slowly starting to become a "us v/s them". I had this experience last week. I went to buy broadband connection from starhub and they identical price for 100mbps cable broadband and 100mbps fibre. I know fibre upload speeds are much much higher than cable upload speeds, but thats something I dont care so much.

Then I asked the lady, who was a nice Filipino in the customer service, about if there is any difference in termination charges b/w the 2 and the difference is huge. Fibre broadband termination in less than 1 yr you need to pay another $350 extra and also if you relocate to another house you need to pay $200.
I instantly chose the cable broadband. To this the Filipino lady agreed whole heartedly. She responded "We as foreigners keep changing houses and yes your decision is right to go with the cable broadband"

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Postby Wd40 » Thu, 19 Jun 2014 10:06 am

The racism b/w developed countries and Singapore is different.

In developed countries, there are certain bad elements who will make racial attacks. But majority of the people are very friendly and have genuine racial tolerance. If are in the wrong places at wrong times, yes chances are you might get attacked. But on a regular basis people of trains, buses etc smile at you, talk with you and dont treat you like an alien.

In Singapore, the bad elements have been controlled so much that they cannot do anything. But even the general public at large dont seem to have a big liking for foreigners and majority think that all problems to them are caused by foreigners and you get that feeling whereever you go in Singapore. Its become us v/s them

That is the difference!

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Postby Brah » Thu, 19 Jun 2014 10:16 am

yogaloungeforever wrote:wat


Kinda says it all.

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Postby Brah » Thu, 19 Jun 2014 10:19 am

Wd40 wrote:The racism b/w developed countries and Singapore is different.

In developed countries, there are certain bad elements who will make racial attacks. But majority of the people are very friendly and have genuine racial tolerance. If are in the wrong places at wrong times, yes chances are you might get attacked. But on a regular basis people of trains, buses etc smile at you, talk with you and dont treat you like an alien.

In Singapore, the bad elements have been controlled so much that they cannot do anything. But even the general public at large dont seem to have a big liking for foreigners and majority think that all problems to them are caused by foreigners and you get that feeling whereever you go in Singapore. Its become us v/s them

That is the difference!

And that was a well-articulated and insightful perspective.

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Postby x9200 » Thu, 19 Jun 2014 10:22 am

^++1. Open active vs. hidden passive.

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Postby Hannieroo » Thu, 19 Jun 2014 10:23 am

Indeed. Left the first T off though.

I'm going to guess I know more British people than you do. I have never known anybody be a part of racial battering or abuse and nobody who has received such either. British people with the exception of a few idiots are not racist and are most certainly not abusive or violent. If anything most are very reserved and we are famous for manners if nothing else.

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Postby yogaloungeforever » Thu, 19 Jun 2014 10:29 am

As I have said ... I rest my case. Thanks for the rather long and troublesome explanation :)


JR8 wrote:@YLF
Academia, like the BBC, are notoriously left-wing in their administration. This manifests itself via a vastly exaggerated policy of 'inclusivity'. Any person perceived to be disadvantaged - a black lesbian transexual blind quadraplegic, being one pinnacle - are indulged; over-indulged in the minds of many.

The BBC practice 'positive discrimination'. That is, they actively hire in order to match the gender and racial mix of the country. Not the best people for the job, rather the 'right balance'. I get quite a culture shock between watching the BBC news in the UK versus watching it abroad. Abroad it's quite old-school, how it used to be. Back home it'll be two news-readers sitting on a red sofa. Newsreader #1, he'll read out one headline, then #2, she'll take her turn, and so on. They'll then have some small-talk side-chat and maybe share a jokey comment. Ah lovely, and no one offended at all [never mind that meanwhile WW3 is on the cusp of being triggered in Iraq].

So yes, a university asking you way too much info re: race, gender, orientation, etc., is not because they're racist, on the contrary. It's so they can indulge anyone considered to be a minority, the precise reverse of your perception! This is also why as you observed but didn't understand, they have zero interest in this data if you're Caucasian. You know, the curse of being a white male...
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