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Postby yogaloungeforever » Fri, 20 Jun 2014 2:51 pm

And you want me to be objective with my posts when you see other posters derailing from the original theme of this thread by shooting down or hammering other posters, whose opinion does not bade well with other posters - where's the objectivity in that?


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Postby Fortan » Fri, 20 Jun 2014 2:53 pm

JR8 wrote:
Blade wrote:Working on my Golf swing...later.
Keep up the GDP numbers now..thanks.


Let's hope your ID doesn't get incinerated whilst you're down on the range, eh what?

:lol:


Can? :lol:

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Fri, 20 Jun 2014 2:53 pm

Sing Along wrote:
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Sing Along wrote:
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Sing Along wrote:Hear about how they demand lower wages because they don't intend to set root in Singapore


Never heard of anyone demanding lower wages.... that's a new one for me....


Sorry, I should rephrase it. Demand lower wages than Singaporeans coz they do not have to pay the expenses associated with living in Singapore permanently.

You can hear many stories of PRs getting a HDB, then selling it for a tidy profit when they leave while young Singaporeans can't start a family due to the high prices.



are you suggesting that a PR who buys a HDB should not sell his house at a profit? okay then.


If it is private housing, by all means. If it is public housing and they are cashing out to return to their home countries, I have an issue.

If they intend to stay on in Singapore to contribute, have their sons serve NS and make this their permanent home, I have no issue.


Take a good look inwardly if you want to know who is responsible for that scenario. Singaporeans are responsible for doing it to themselves in their greed for constant churning to upgrade. All HDBs are sold new to Singaporeans only. Part of the deal. However, after the MOP, they are free to sell it on the open market. Soooooo, they ask a hefty price and will not sell it to another local at a reasonable price. Add to that the other Singaporean Landlords who own and rent out private housing. They ask for sky high rentals as they know the foreigners are stuck and have to live somewhere, so they gouge the foreigners with stupidly high rentals. Somebody gets PR and they need a place to live (remember, most EPs who get PR loose their "allowances" upon gaining PR AND they experience a 20 percent drop in disposable income due to the onset of CPF. Now, they have no choice but either bleed to the locals landlords or bleed in the purchase of an elevated resale flat. Now the Singaporeans who own these HDB flats COULD sell to other Singaporeans at reasonable resale prices, but greed jumps up into their eyes so they hold out for the captive audience who really NEEDS a flat as they cannot live with their parents as a lot of locals do, until such time as they can buy new from the HDB.

You see, all the gripes are nothing but a smoke screen for evil Singaporeans to hide behind while they continue to gouge the foreigner and then complain because the foreigner had to pay the price either in mortgage or in inflated rentals. The new PR's expenses are much, much more than the locals, especially if they have young children. Hospital/medical costs have lesser subsidies, Schooling has lesser subsidies, No GST rebates or any other type of rebates, their children (male) have to do NS but cannot vote (can die for the government but cannot vote for the government). No relatives/parents to live with rent free like most young locals (except the few semi-goodly souls who contribute to the welfare of their parents).

Regarding HDB housing, Singaporeans are hoist by their own petard.

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Postby ecureilx » Fri, 20 Jun 2014 3:04 pm

Sporkin wrote:<edited>
Perhaps a capital gains tax w.r.t public housing should be instituted for PRs, perhaps then demand for public housing would be somewhat tempered and not lead to runaway inflation as we've seen in recent years. Private properties, let it be a free for all.

]


tell to me how much can a PR profit with the additional stamp duty and no subsidy? vs citizens getting massive subsidies and allowed to sell at market rate after MOP ... and PR borrow at higher interest vs HDB interest ....

why not ban PRs fro buying HDB ... so nobody is interested to be a PR -> SC...

if you insist PRs are boosting the HDB prices you are delusional ....

and if you think all PRs are rich you buy private property ...get real

the types which can afford condo cash down aren't necessarily interested to park themselves in this Red Dot ...

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Postby opinionatedman » Fri, 20 Jun 2014 3:08 pm

yogaloungeforever wrote:Well as moderator it seems you have the upper hand with threats. But what I have stated are facts. And as far as my posts what racial rants are they? I may have highlighted Indian examples but it is the truth. Have I called an Indian a derogatory name because this should your valid reason for barring my account. And not on the grounds of silencing me because of the facts I state If you do this, you are obviously afraid of the truth. Very afraid!


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yogaloungeforever wrote:Wow .. so many Blade's quotes from X9200. What irony!

You have a full right not to be able to comprehend various things, but your unprovoked and racial rants without any solid context are already a nuisance. One more and you are gone.

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You have been calling me names right fromt he word go, I have tried and searched for arguments in your commens, but sofar have found none, aprt from brining India out of context, and denigrating it, and the citizens of that country as a whole.

Yet you dont think yourself to be racist and/or derogatory.

Remember one thing, if you spit up in the air, it is going to fall right on your face.

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Postby ecureilx » Fri, 20 Jun 2014 3:10 pm

sundaymorningstaple wrote:Take a good look inwardly if you want to know who is responsible for that scenario. Singaporeans are responsible for doing it to themselves in their greed for constant churning to upgrade. All HDBs are sold new to Singaporeans only. Part of the deal. However, after the MOP, they are free to sell it on the open market. Soooooo, they ask a hefty price and will not sell it to another local at a reasonable price. Add to that the other Singaporean Landlords who own and rent out private housing. They ask for sky high rentals as they know the foreigners are stuck and have to live somewhere, so they gouge the foreigners with stupidly high rentals. Somebody gets PR and they need a place to live (remember, most EPs who get PR loose their "allowances" upon gaining PR AND they experience a 20 percent drop in disposable income due to the onset of CPF. Now, they have no choice but either bleed to the locals landlords or bleed in the purchase of an elevated resale flat. Now the Singaporeans who own these HDB flats COULD sell to other Singaporeans at reasonable resale prices, but greed jumps up into their eyes so they hold out for the captive audience who really NEEDS a flat as they cannot live with their parents as a lot of locals do, until such time as they can buy new from the HDB.

You see, all the gripes are nothing but a smoke screen for evil Singaporeans to hide behind while they continue to gouge the foreigner and then complain because the foreigner had to pay the price either in mortgage or in inflated rentals. The new PR's expenses are much, much more than the locals, especially if they have young children. Hospital/medical costs have lesser subsidies, Schooling has lesser subsidies, No GST rebates or any other type of rebates, their children (male) have to do NS but cannot vote (can die for the government but cannot vote for the government). No relatives/parents to live with rent free like most young locals (except the few semi-goodly souls who contribute to the welfare of their parents). .


you forgot the part of PRs depriving Singaporeans of the chance to start a family ... per Sing Alongs post ....

Sing Along, if anybody gives an oath confirming sending their sons to NS but has only daughters ... then how ?

and aren't SCs also trying to find innovative ways to avoid NS?

see this forum on how many NS related queries pop up ...

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Postby rajagainstthemachine » Fri, 20 Jun 2014 3:14 pm

yogaloungeforever wrote:Well if i was a coward I wouldn't be upfront :) And please learn to distinguish between racial rants and racial examples. My posts have highlighted Indian examples. Have they ever had a derogatory remark or name made against Indians? At least I don't refer to them as pakis

the lynx wrote:Y ....You, on the other hand, are obviously afraid to face the truth that your highlights of the negative things about Indians only speak volumes for your cowardice behind the screen and keyboard. Please go back and re-read your posts from Day 1. How many percent of them has an element of decrying all things Indian?


Dear Yogalogicfail,

You seem to have some unhealthy obsession and deep rooted resentment towards India and Indians in general. This thread original topic was about a hatred filed blog targeting Filipinos, you instead went about your own agenda of India bashing, ridiculing posters for having bad English which failing to correct basic grammar in your own posts, shirking away from any real discussion by posting pictures of Homer and now you try and act like you are the victim when threatened with a ban.
Also,you have yoga in your user name which is the biggest irony considering you don't like India/Indians.

and this is how you look when you post here most of the time.


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Postby opinionatedman » Fri, 20 Jun 2014 3:14 pm

[quote="yogaloungeforever"][/quote]


It is strange and ironical that a person who hits out at Indians and anything remotely connected to India, has a profile name which is so connected to India, founded in India and practiced in India

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Postby JR8 » Fri, 20 Jun 2014 3:25 pm

I find it strange that this forum is an oasis of calm, experience, and considered help and support, and then....

2 or 3 trolls always turn up at the same time.

[or so it seems]

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Postby Sporkin » Fri, 20 Jun 2014 3:25 pm

Not all SC's get to buy first hand from public housing either, there's a income cap, but that's a separate issue.

Amount of profit really would depend on the time of market entry wouldn't it, but does the amount actually matter? If the purported interest of the govt to encourage PR->SC conversion, then this would be something to tilt in that favour.

I really do not have statistics on PR vs local demand of public housing, if someone could provide a link that would be fantastic. In any case if
a) there isn't much profiteering and,
b) PR demand isn't there
then it does not matter if there is a Capital Gains Tax imposed specifically for public housing wouldn't it?


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Sporkin wrote:<edited>
Perhaps a capital gains tax w.r.t public housing should be instituted for PRs, perhaps then demand for public housing would be somewhat tempered and not lead to runaway inflation as we've seen in recent years. Private properties, let it be a free for all.

]


tell to me how much can a PR profit with the additional stamp duty and no subsidy? vs citizens getting massive subsidies and allowed to sell at market rate after MOP ... and PR borrow at higher interest vs HDB interest ....

why not ban PRs fro buying HDB ... so nobody is interested to be a PR -> SC...

if you insist PRs are boosting the HDB prices you are delusional ....

and if you think all PRs are rich you buy private property ...get real

the types which can afford condo cash down aren't necessarily interested to park themselves in this Red Dot ...

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Postby yogaloungeforever » Fri, 20 Jun 2014 3:26 pm

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opinionatedman wrote:You have been calling me names right fromt he word go, I have tried and searched for arguments in your commens, but sofar have found none, aprt from brining India out of context, and denigrating it, and the citizens of that country as a whole.

Yet you dont think yourself to be racist and/or derogatory.

Remember one thing, if you spit up in the air, it is going to fall right on your face.
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Postby yogaloungeforever » Fri, 20 Jun 2014 3:28 pm

Well .... likewise!

rajagainstthemachine wrote:Dear Yogalogicfail,

You seem to have some unhealthy obsession and deep rooted resentment towards India and Indians in general. This thread original topic was about a hatred filed blog targeting Filipinos, you instead went about your own agenda of India bashing, ridiculing posters for having bad English which failing to correct basic grammar in your own posts, shirking away from any real discussion by posting pictures of Homer and now you try and act like you are the victim when threatened with a ban.
Also,you have yoga in your user name which is the biggest irony considering you don't like India/Indians.

and this is how you look when you post here most of the time.


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Postby nakatago » Fri, 20 Jun 2014 3:28 pm

JR8 wrote:I find it strange that this forum is an oasis of calm, experience, and considered help and support, and then....

2 or 3 trolls always turn up at the same time.

[or so it seems]


The most pristine beach resort will get the occasional storm every once in a while.

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Postby JR8 » Fri, 20 Jun 2014 3:31 pm

nakatago wrote:
JR8 wrote:I find it strange that this forum is an oasis of calm, experience, and considered help and support, and then....

2 or 3 trolls always turn up at the same time.

[or so it seems]


The most pristine beach resort will get the occasional storm every once in a while.


Which washes up a stinking turd or two...

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Postby rajagainstthemachine » Fri, 20 Jun 2014 3:33 pm

yogaloungeforever wrote:Well .... likewise!


Likewise to what ?
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