love itrajagainstthemachine wrote:a few things
1. noise isnt good
2. shoot the birds
3. you need to chill
4. you need to use less than 50% of your energy on your neighbour, maybe 1%
5. facebook police only book serial like offenders, you might want to consult with the twitterati
6. try talking to the birds in a calm voice, maybe they will listen to you
P.S do you smoke? thats some really good shit you got there man, pass it around
Jasonlaick,jasonlaick wrote:Hi folks,
Care to share about your HDB dwelling experience with reference to extreme difficult neighbors? Or perhaps solutions as well?
I tried to talk to my neighbor next door, police, HDB, AVA, Town council, CMC unfortunately as most of you know, none really works much.
There are few things I haven't try though such as going through the MP, RC, installing sound proof windows.
I know we should try to be tolerant to one another and talk things out in cordial manner but when you have a neighbor who created more than 5 to 10 nuisances how do you deal with it?
Anyway, my parents are very old, 79 and 84. We been living here for 37 years. They aren't affected as they have serious earing problem (good for them) while my neighbor's birds has been driving me frustrated. Would you mind if I keep 2 whole day making noise (not chirping) right till 11pm? I manage to resolve other issues with him via CMC aka mediation center, if he does not live in peace with me, I will force for peace via my lawyer. I am very lucky he realize I am very serious and all other nuisances stop.
I was too soft hearten. I agreed to let he birds make noise till 9pm (previously his birds could kept shouting for 1 and a half hours from 7 to 930pm and then intermittently till 1115pm. This bird is kinda strange it just won't stop except for few seconds.). My biggest mistake is not to mention that his bird should not kept shouting prior 9pm.
I hope you guys will share your HDB experiences so that it can create a soothing feeling for others who are having difficult experience too.
As for myself, I called HDB and AVA i was surprised that there is no guideline on how many birds a HDB house can keep. I thought it was one. There is no guideline too on when the bird should stop creating noise, i heard from some HDB officers they felt should be 7pm. Anyway I am planning to clear my room (next door to his), so that I could rent it out. If possible I might rent out the utility room too. We still have one masterbed room for my parents. I plan to find a small room perhaps either in Malaysia (and later HK) where I can focus on my investment. I just need wifi and a quite place. I have a malaysian gf and we plan to buy our own (landed) house.
I am sorry if you felt I am too "ultra noise sensitive" but so far among the rest of 20 odds neighbors nearby, he is the only one who is extremely difficult to live with. Even his mum has become so much considerate over the past 4 years and his younger brother is very easy to get along. I have used more than 50% of my energy dealing with him each day.
P/s : if anyone of you have neighbor who played mahjong like I do, from late 2008 to 2013. I would suggest that you write to the police facebook, list out the case. For mine they played daily till wee 5am. They only stop or reduce the noise when I kept calling police. So far I made more than 40 calls over the years. I live directly opposite them and I was thus in a position to see their hand motion. The outcome? One Assistant superintendent of my area called me, and said he will talk to them (nicely), if they do it again he will use a different tone. He is the only police officer I treated with respect and never need to raise my voice. So far over a year plus, he only visited them 4 times. The last time is around this year chinese new year period, to me it's a relapse case. For past 4 months there are 5 instances of mahjong washing but I confirmed 4 or such instances are from the funeral wake at our void deck. Thus, you might wish to facebook police and get an ASP to talk to you.
As far as I am concern, if you can get the problem solved by just 1 police\HDB visit, there is already is a miracle but so far it takes more than that. Noise nuisances could easily last for minimum few months till over years. Don't blame the authorities they have rules to follow and they cannot force the noisy neighbors to stop. If you are a foreigner at least you have the option to move. For me I am very lucky gf wanted me very much to relocate.
will this be done with proper HDB approval?jasonlaick wrote:. If possible I might rent out the utility room too.
i'm going to quote this for posterity.jasonlaick wrote:Hi folks,
Care to share about your HDB dwelling experience with reference to extreme difficult neighbors? Or perhaps solutions as well?
I tried to talk to my neighbor next door, police, HDB, AVA, Town council, CMC unfortunately as most of you know, none really works much.
There are few things I haven't try though such as going through the MP, RC, installing sound proof windows.
I know we should try to be tolerant to one another and talk things out in cordial manner but when you have a neighbor who created more than 5 to 10 nuisances how do you deal with it?
Anyway, my parents are very old, 79 and 84. We been living here for 37 years. They aren't affected as they have serious earing problem (good for them) while my neighbor's birds has been driving me frustrated. Would you mind if I keep 2 whole day making noise (not chirping) right till 11pm? I manage to resolve other issues with him via CMC aka mediation center, if he does not live in peace with me, I will force for peace via my lawyer. I am very lucky he realize I am very serious and all other nuisances stop.
I was too soft hearten. I agreed to let he birds make noise till 9pm (previously his birds could kept shouting for 1 and a half hours from 7 to 930pm and then intermittently till 1115pm. This bird is kinda strange it just won't stop except for few seconds.). My biggest mistake is not to mention that his bird should not kept shouting prior 9pm.
I hope you guys will share your HDB experiences so that it can create a soothing feeling for others who are having difficult experience too.
As for myself, I called HDB and AVA i was surprised that there is no guideline on how many birds a HDB house can keep. I thought it was one. There is no guideline too on when the bird should stop creating noise, i heard from some HDB officers they felt should be 7pm. Anyway I am planning to clear my room (next door to his), so that I could rent it out. If possible I might rent out the utility room too. We still have one masterbed room for my parents. I plan to find a small room perhaps either in Malaysia (and later HK) where I can focus on my investment. I just need wifi and a quite place. I have a malaysian gf and we plan to buy our own (landed) house.
I am sorry if you felt I am too "ultra noise sensitive" but so far among the rest of 20 odds neighbors nearby, he is the only one who is extremely difficult to live with. Even his mum has become so much considerate over the past 4 years and his younger brother is very easy to get along. I have used more than 50% of my energy dealing with him each day.
P/s : if anyone of you have neighbor who played mahjong like I do, from late 2008 to 2013. I would suggest that you write to the police facebook, list out the case. For mine they played daily till wee 5am. They only stop or reduce the noise when I kept calling police. So far I made more than 40 calls over the years. I live directly opposite them and I was thus in a position to see their hand motion. The outcome? One Assistant superintendent of my area called me, and said he will talk to them (nicely), if they do it again he will use a different tone. He is the only police officer I treated with respect and never need to raise my voice. So far over a year plus, he only visited them 4 times. The last time is around this year chinese new year period, to me it's a relapse case. For past 4 months there are 5 instances of mahjong washing but I confirmed 4 or such instances are from the funeral wake at our void deck. Thus, you might wish to facebook police and get an ASP to talk to you.
As far as I am concern, if you can get the problem solved by just 1 police\HDB visit, there is already is a miracle but so far it takes more than that. Noise nuisances could easily last for minimum few months till over years. Don't blame the authorities they have rules to follow and they cannot force the noisy neighbors to stop. If you are a foreigner at least you have the option to move. For me I am very lucky gf wanted me very much to relocate.
so are you a foreigner or singaporean? can't you just move?jasonlaick wrote:Hi folks,
Care to share about your HDB dwelling experience with reference to extreme difficult neighbors? Or perhaps solutions as well?
I tried to talk to my neighbor next door, police, HDB, AVA, Town council, CMC unfortunately as most of you know, none really works much.
There are few things I haven't try though such as going through the MP, RC...
...If you are a foreigner at least you have the option to move. For me I am very lucky gf wanted me very much to relocate.
Put a cloth cover over the cage, thus creating "twilight" for them. The birds will calm down and be quiet.zzm9980 wrote:I'm curious how one makes birds "be quiet" at arbitrary times. Does the neighbor even have it in his power to quiet them with non-lethal means?
Put them into dark place (i.e. cover the cage with a light tight fabric).zzm9980 wrote:I'm curious how one makes birds "be quiet" at arbitrary times. Does the neighbor even have it in his power to quiet them with non-lethal means?
Ok, never knew this. I guess it is semi-reasonable then expect neighbors to shut a bird up at some point. I assumed they just slept when they felt like it.sundaymorningstaple wrote:Put a cloth cover over the cage, thus creating "twilight" for them. The birds will calm down and be quiet.zzm9980 wrote:I'm curious how one makes birds "be quiet" at arbitrary times. Does the neighbor even have it in his power to quiet them with non-lethal means?
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