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Postby zzm9980 » Sat, 07 Jun 2014 11:46 am

Brah wrote:Frankly, if you haven't been here to live and work, and you have a better offer in the States, you really need a very compelling reason to come here over that. I'm not so sure that you do.


He has a wife/girlfriend/fiance around here somewhere. Probably rather compelling. :)

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Postby taxico » Sat, 07 Jun 2014 5:16 pm

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Brah wrote:Frankly, if you haven't been here to live and work, and you have a better offer in the States, you really need a very compelling reason to come here over that. I'm not so sure that you do.


He has a wife/girlfriend/fiance around here somewhere. Probably rather compelling. :)


make her go over. didn't work for me, but hey, he's gotta try!
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Postby zzm9980 » Sat, 07 Jun 2014 11:17 pm

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Brah wrote:Frankly, if you haven't been here to live and work, and you have a better offer in the States, you really need a very compelling reason to come here over that. I'm not so sure that you do.


He has a wife/girlfriend/fiance around here somewhere. Probably rather compelling. :)


make her go over. didn't work for me, but hey, he's gotta try!


Yeah, seeing the sums involved I think if I were OP I would take the $300k/yr and do that for a couple of years until just before total burnout. Then come on over to Asia and work in something comparatively relaxed after you have that nest egg.

Of course, I also imagine that once you taste that lifestyle it's a bit hard to give up.

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Postby Beeroclock » Sat, 07 Jun 2014 11:28 pm

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Brah wrote:Frankly, if you haven't been here to live and work, and you have a better offer in the States, you really need a very compelling reason to come here over that. I'm not so sure that you do.


He has a wife/girlfriend/fiance around here somewhere. Probably rather compelling. :)


make her go over. didn't work for me, but hey, he's gotta try!


Yeah, seeing the sums involved I think if I were OP I would take the $300k/yr and do that for a couple of years until just before total burnout. Then come on over to Asia and work in something comparatively relaxed after you have that nest egg.

Of course, I also imagine that once you taste that lifestyle it's a bit hard to give up.

I'm skeptical of long distance relationships, especially with that kind of time zone delta, I think the percentage who will still be together after more than 12 months will be very low. So if it were me I would start with this question, do you really love her ? if so, find a compromise to be in the same place or at least the same region. If not, take the 300k, obviously!

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Sun, 08 Jun 2014 12:14 am

I did it the first 8 years of my current marriage. My son in law AND daughter have been doing it for the past 3+ years (he's been seconded to Dallas TX by his employer here for 10 month stretches) and my daughter works on month on/off in Angola TX. With communication the way they are now, it's easy to do. Not like it was for me back in the 70's & 80's.

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Postby Wd40 » Sun, 08 Jun 2014 12:44 am

OP with the $300k job, reminds me so much about this British guy Anton Kreil who featured in Million Dollar Traders :)

Beeroclock, calling over the better half to the states, with him doing the long hours in Investment banking, is a sure receipe for distaster. As Anton Kreil tells about his experience in the interview at Cass Business School.

Here's the nice interview.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LoIJZEbOLuc

Watch from 10:20 :)

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Postby zzm9980 » Sun, 08 Jun 2014 3:28 am

Beeroclock wrote:I'm skeptical of long distance relationships, especially with that kind of time zone delta, I think the percentage who will still be together after more than 12 months will be very low. So if it were me I would start with this question, do you really love her ? if so, find a compromise to be in the same place or at least the same region. If not, take the 300k, obviously!


Depends how serious he is. If there is even the slightest doubt in the long term viability of the relationship, do you really think coming here is better? Ang Moh working for GIC making $10k/month? The SPG Vultures will be swirling around reading to do everything in their power to test that relationship while he's still collecting his bags in T3. Plus, he obviously already has a predilection for girls from this part of the world. :)

OP, if this post is somehow convincing you to come to Singapore, that may be intentional :)

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Postby taxico » Sun, 08 Jun 2014 10:32 am

Beeroclock wrote:...I'm skeptical of long distance relationships, especially with that kind of time zone delta, I think the percentage who will still be together after more than 12 months will be very low...


low chance doesn't mean no chance. it's difficult and not for everybody.

it worked out for me and my then-girlfriend. we visited each other twice or thrice a year for many years.

we're now married. okay, and we're STILL married.
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Postby JR8 » Sun, 08 Jun 2014 11:01 am

zzm9980 wrote:Yeah, seeing the sums involved I think if I were OP I would take the $300k/yr and do that for a couple of years until just before total burnout. Then come on over to Asia and work in something comparatively relaxed after you have that nest egg.


Yes I agree, I was going to make the same point myself. Coin it when you're younger and 'hungry', and then take your Wall Street background to a cushy job in Asia later.

zzm9980 wrote: Of course, I also imagine that once you taste that lifestyle it's a bit hard to give up.


The trick is never tasting the '$300k lifestyle', never setting your lifestyle on a par with your pay-check. I've seen people who've spent it all and been spat out, broke and with nothing by 25, but many more who by the same age have been prudent and set themselves up for life. I reckon the majority smart enough to be making that in the first place, aren't fool enough to go and blow it all...

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Sun, 08 Jun 2014 11:11 am

taxico wrote:
Beeroclock wrote:...I'm skeptical of long distance relationships, especially with that kind of time zone delta, I think the percentage who will still be together after more than 12 months will be very low...


low chance doesn't mean no chance. it's difficult and not for everybody.

it worked out for me and my then-girlfriend. we visited each other twice or thrice a year for many years.

we're now married. okay, and we're STILL married.


Yep, taxico, I'm coming up on 31 years and still still with her. Granted the first 8 were rough, but there was enough there to keep the glue bonded. ;-)

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Sun, 08 Jun 2014 11:12 am

JR8 wrote:The trick is never tasting the '$300k lifestyle', never setting your lifestyle on a par with your pay-check. I've seen people who've spent it all and been spat out, broke and with nothing by 25, but many more who by the same age have been prudent and set themselves up for life. I reckon the majority smart enough to be making that in the first place, aren't fool enough to go and blow it all...


^^This!.

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Postby RoastBeefBaron » Sun, 08 Jun 2014 11:32 am

Brah wrote:There is also the aspect that this industry is not what it was, and most likely will never be again. I've read articles about how you get in you and make your big money early, then go on and do something else with the rest of your career.

So you either start that off on $100k or $300k.

Frankly, if you haven't been here to live and work, and you have a better offer in the States, you really need a very compelling reason to come here over that. I'm not so sure that you do.


+1. Set yourself up as a 'Wall St dude', then use that background later to come here and find something better. Maybe take that GIC job in 5-10 years. Say you took it now for a few years, then wanted to go back to Wall St. Who there would be familiar with the GIC? I don't think it'd be that great on your CV.

I understand that you wish to move for a girl, but that move needs to be worth it for you as well. Doesn't sound like it is.

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Postby zzm9980 » Sun, 08 Jun 2014 1:08 pm

RoastBeefBaron wrote:I understand that you wish to move for a girl, but that move needs to be worth it for you as well. Doesn't sound like it is.


And as long as you can walk, there will be 100 more girls just like her waiting in OT. :D

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Postby Beeroclock » Sun, 08 Jun 2014 10:44 pm

I'm skeptical of long distance relationships, especially with that kind of time zone delta, I think the percentage who will still be together after more than 12 months will be very low.


Ok maybe my assertion is under doubt judging by the anecdotal evidence here! I have seen some stick together too but it was very tough, personally I wouldn't do it if I had a choice.

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Postby zzm9980 » Mon, 09 Jun 2014 1:33 am

Beeroclock wrote:
I'm skeptical of long distance relationships, especially with that kind of time zone delta, I think the percentage who will still be together after more than 12 months will be very low.


Ok maybe my assertion is under doubt judging by the anecdotal evidence here! I have seen some stick together too but it was very tough, personally I wouldn't do it if I had a choice.


The audience is atypical. The majority of people here are foreigners used to working (and living) far from home, and much more likely to deal with such situations better than the average person. I would guess a lot of those who took their first foreign assignment and found their relationships falling apart went back home and thus aren't likely to be on this forum.


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