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Student Pass

Postby Komatsu_Sakura » Sun, 25 May 2014 9:07 pm

Hi

I am having a problem in applying a student pass .My student pass was rejected and I have also made an appeal once .

Here are the possible reason on why my student pass got rejected

-Jobs issue (because i was holding a work permit before applying student pass for the second round changed job 4 times )
-Missing Documents
- Wrong dates and input of data
-Bank Statements to prove that i am financial able to pay my course fee
-Attendance issue with my ex school (maybe. Tried to check but the school said no reports )

I am also at lost here because I am still convince that there are missing documents. Because my school said that there wont be any issue when that happens . I saw the admin been putting N.A on an (*) on the SOLAR + system . I checked with a friend that i was in school at the time so I don't think attendance is the problem .

I wont be surprise if that was the case . Attendance maybe at that time I was MIA due to the Work Permit application it took almost a whole day .

Since my school cant do it properly I decided to shift back to my ex school since they screwed my student pass application big time. A Student agent warn me you only have 3 times to appeal after that .THAT'S IT No more .

Can someone please help .... or got into the same situation .

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Re: Student Pass

Postby taxico » Mon, 26 May 2014 9:30 am

Komatsu_Sakura wrote:Hi

I am having a problem in applying a student pass .My student pass was rejected and I have also made an appeal once .

Here are the possible reason on why my student pass got rejected

-Jobs issue (because i was holding a work permit before applying student pass for the second round changed job 4 times )
-Missing Documents
- Wrong dates and input of data
-Bank Statements to prove that i am financial able to pay my course fee
-Attendance issue with my ex school (maybe. Tried to check but the school said no reports )

I am also at lost here because I am still convince that there are missing documents. Because my school said that there wont be any issue when that happens . I saw the admin been putting N.A on an (*) on the SOLAR + system . I checked with a friend that i was in school at the time so I don't think attendance is the problem .

I wont be surprise if that was the case . Attendance maybe at that time I was MIA due to the Work Permit application it took almost a whole day .

Since my school cant do it properly I decided to shift back to my ex school since they screwed my student pass application big time. A Student agent warn me you only have 3 times to appeal after that .THAT'S IT No more .

Can someone please help .... or got into the same situation .


are you trying to game the system or have i misread your intentions?

how long have you been in singapore? what schools did you attend in total?

i don't understand:

"because i was holding a work permit before applying student pass for the second round changed job 4 times"

how many times have you had a work permit? how old are you?

1 day of missing school is not poor attendance. 1 month is.

surely you have to provide all required documents and proof of funds... for school... this is not unique to singapore.

as for the school entering in wrong information in your application, can you not find out by asking the school to show you or print the app out? (or something similar)

anyway, what you've posted above will probably be sufficient for ICA to think your intent is not to study...
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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Mon, 26 May 2014 11:06 am

Which is exactly why I didn't enter the fray on this one. :-k

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Postby Komatsu_Sakura » Mon, 26 May 2014 2:55 pm

are you trying to game the system or have i misread your intentions?

Im not trying to game the system .Because I made a last minute decision to withdraw from my current course because the school did not give me any proper information and since my grades were very bad and couldn't keep up .I decided to withdraw since is already a failed degree . and is because of the school admin incompetency .All of my appeal material I took from outside student service which my school didn't even help me. After that I had to conform it with the other side which was very bad .When i saw the mistake they made they denied it and i ask them they said its ok one .No problem . They lied to me .Which i found out from other forum .

I use to go to college A for my diploma and advance diploma (Full time student pass)and I transfer to College P for my third year(part time under a work permit ) . I was stuck almost 3 years (part time )until I saw my transcript which they been hiding the information from me .Anyhow in College P almost everyone trying to kick me out of the program . After carefully evaluate the details i realized that all this while they should have told me the truth not play games with me . Then I applied a student pass since there is no way I can get a work permit .They also have been lying to me about the risk which actually was the source of the problem(job change juts to keep the work permit) and they didn't allow me to transfer to full time after quite sometimes they said can .I decided to come to a closure and made a decision to go back to college A to restart my final year .I ask them 3 times and they refuse to do my student pass until this recently I demand that I cant get a work permit not at this crazy time .

how long have you been in Singapore? what schools did you attend in total?

Since 2008 -2010 College A Student pass full time.
Around 2010 I managed to get a job under a work permit
2011 I joined College P part time under work permit .
2014 -I cant get a work permit so I applied a student pass then it was rejected .I also made an appeal and it failed .
This recently I also made a decision not to continue it further with them as they already put my future work permit at risk .Because this time I found it the info at other forum if they cant get me a student pass I might as well ask college A to do it for me


i don't understand:

"because i was holding a work permit before applying student pass for the second round changed job 4 times"

Student pass --> Work Permit --> Student pass again

how many times have you had a work permit? how old are you?
4 times with four different company .26 Years old

1 day of missing school is not poor attendance. 1 month is.
This one is cleared already

surely you have to provide all required documents and proof of funds... for school... this is not unique to Singapore.

I decided to do a second appeal and this time round with a financial statement as advice from a outside student service

as for the school entering in wrong information in your application, can you not find out by asking the school to show you or print the app out? (or something similar)

I did and guess what they said is nothing . I told them if needed i be glad to provide it .But they said don't worry it will go through just write the appeal . If you were me i think you also will run away or transfer if need to . Things got clearer to me when the time I applied the student pass with them after the rejection of the appeal came to my face.

anyway, what you've posted above will probably be sufficient for ICA to think your intent is not to study...

Then how to solve it ... I still thinking and finding ways to it .Especially rewriting the appeal .

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Re: Student Pass

Postby Komatsu_Sakura » Mon, 26 May 2014 3:42 pm

taxico wrote:
Komatsu_Sakura wrote:Hi

I am having a problem in applying a student pass .My student pass was rejected and I have also made an appeal once .

Here are the possible reason on why my student pass got rejected

-Jobs issue (because i was holding a work permit before applying student pass for the second round changed job 4 times )
-Missing Documents
- Wrong dates and input of data
-Bank Statements to prove that i am financial able to pay my course fee
-Attendance issue with my ex school (maybe. Tried to check but the school said no reports )

I am also at lost here because I am still convince that there are missing documents. Because my school said that there wont be any issue when that happens . I saw the admin been putting N.A on an (*) on the SOLAR + system . I checked with a friend that i was in school at the time so I don't think attendance is the problem .

I wont be surprise if that was the case . Attendance maybe at that time I was MIA due to the Work Permit application it took almost a whole day .

Since my school cant do it properly I decided to shift back to my ex school since they screwed my student pass application big time. A Student agent warn me you only have 3 times to appeal after that .THAT'S IT No more .

Can someone please help .... or got into the same situation .


are you trying to game the system or have i misread your intentions?

how long have you been in singapore? what schools did you attend in total?

i don't understand:

"because i was holding a work permit before applying student pass for the second round changed job 4 times"

how many times have you had a work permit? how old are you?

1 day of missing school is not poor attendance. 1 month is.

surely you have to provide all required documents and proof of funds... for school... this is not unique to singapore.

as for the school entering in wrong information in your application, can you not find out by asking the school to show you or print the app out? (or something similar)

anyway, what you've posted above will probably be sufficient for ICA to think your intent is not to study...


are you trying to game the system or have i misread your intentions?

Im not trying to game the system .Because I made a last minute decision to withdraw from my current course because the school did not give me any proper information and since my grades were very bad and couldn't keep up .I decided to withdraw since is already a failed degree . and is because of the school admin incompetency .All of my appeal material I took from outside student service which my school didn't even help me. After that I had to conform it with the other side which was very bad .When i saw the mistake they made they denied it and i ask them they said its ok one .No problem . They lied to me .Which i found out from other forum .

I use to go to college A for my diploma and advance diploma (Full time student pass)and I transfer to College P for my third year(part time under a work permit ) . I was stuck almost 3 years (part time )until I saw my transcript which they been hiding the information from me .Anyhow in College P almost everyone trying to kick me out of the program . After carefully evaluate the details i realized that all this while they should have told me the truth not play games with me . Then I applied a student pass since there is no way I can get a work permit .They also have been lying to me about the risk which actually was the source of the problem(job change juts to keep the work permit) and they didn't allow me to transfer to full time after quite sometimes they said can .I decided to come to a closure and made a decision to go back to college A to restart my final year .I ask them 3 times and they refuse to do my student pass until this recently I demand that I cant get a work permit not at this crazy time .

how long have you been in Singapore? what schools did you attend in total?

Since 2008 -2010 College A Student pass full time.
Around 2010 I managed to get a job under a work permit
2011 I joined College P part time under work permit .
2014 -I cant get a work permit so I applied a student pass then it was rejected .I also made an appeal and it failed .
This recently I also made a decision not to continue it further with them as they already put my future work permit at risk .Because this time I found it the info at other forum if they cant get me a student pass I might as well ask college A to do it for me


i don't understand:

"because i was holding a work permit before applying student pass for the second round changed job 4 times"

Student pass --> Work Permit --> Student pass again

how many times have you had a work permit? how old are you?
4 times with four different company .26 Years old

1 day of missing school is not poor attendance. 1 month is.
This one is cleared already

surely you have to provide all required documents and proof of funds... for school... this is not unique to Singapore.

I decided to do a second appeal and this time round with a financial statement as advice from a outside student service

as for the school entering in wrong information in your application, can you not find out by asking the school to show you or print the app out? (or something similar)

I did and guess what they said is nothing . I told them if needed i be glad to provide it .But they said don't worry it will go through just write the appeal . If you were me i think you also will run away or transfer if need to . Things got clearer to me when the time I applied the student pass with them after the rejection of the appeal came to my face.

anyway, what you've posted above will probably be sufficient for ICA to think your intent is not to study...

Then how to solve it ... I still thinking and finding ways to it .Especially rewriting the appeal .

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Postby beppi » Mon, 26 May 2014 3:43 pm

Your posts are an incomprehensible mess of accusations on others for why your life is in a mess.
Are you, by any chance, wearing a tin foil hat?

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Re: Student Pass

Postby Komatsu_Sakura » Mon, 26 May 2014 3:48 pm

taxico wrote:
Komatsu_Sakura wrote:
anyway, what you've posted above will probably be sufficient for ICA to think your intent is not to study...



What you said was true when I contacted College A they said why not write Why I should study this course .But College P said that just explain what went wrong with the application and so on ..... .Sigh .... Dont know why college P so unreliable . Saw their true colours after when I was out of job .and when my first appeal was rejected because the said it was nothing .

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Re: Student Pass

Postby Komatsu_Sakura » Mon, 26 May 2014 3:49 pm

[quote="taxico"][quote="Komatsu_Sakura"]

Thank you for your help :) . If my next appeal can make it i let you all know
Thank you for your help

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Postby Komatsu_Sakura » Mon, 26 May 2014 6:08 pm

beppi wrote:Your posts are an incomprehensible mess of accusations on others for why your life is in a mess.
Are you, by any chance, wearing a tin foil hat?


Nop .Its is true since i did asked .And i found out by chance ... And ps yeah it is a mess but there is a lot of solutions to it . I wrote there since the solution was found too .

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Postby Komatsu_Sakura » Mon, 26 May 2014 6:09 pm

beppi wrote:Your posts are an incomprehensible mess of accusations on others for why your life is in a mess.
Are you, by any chance, wearing a tin foil hat?



I am just finding solution for a student pass appeal other than that it has already long solved before i posted on this forum .Yeah Collegue P did alot of mistake and claim it as it was OK .I havent even ask them if they take a old file they definitely know why they are so many NIL /NA when in the previous time i applied there was information on it . And yup is true they hid alot of information and i happen to slowly to find out by chance . Well what can i say they are super capable in making a whole mess by acting smart . They even try to get me out also .TBH I never seen a messy things going on . Student pass is ICA who issued it not the school . Thats why by solving it is to change school and let a more reliable person to do it then to give me inaccurate information .Now i know of course find a way to run away instead of staying there to let them cause more damages . I did ask and what worst i had to find out about them in other forum which they really did a lot of damages to other student too .Since they pass it then so be i but even they pass what about those students who intent to take master chances was ruin by them .A lot of student left the school feeling upset and i also decided to take another route .after they graduated aslo

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Postby beppi » Mon, 26 May 2014 7:34 pm

I assume your answer means "Yes".

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Postby Komatsu_Sakura » Mon, 26 May 2014 7:41 pm

beppi wrote:I assume your answer means "Yes".


Sort off but in the first place i should have left earlier also .Then maybe it wont happen till something like this .Tin foil no im not . I dont think i pointing the blame but i am showing the blame that somehow they claim that they were in the right and i wans in the wrong which was un true since it happens i cant turn back but try to make it better . Every school have is pro and cons but college P is the worst .What worst was i saw some full time student taking part time course which the student still far away from graduation .Seriously it piss me off because it wasnt fair when i told them I also wasn't able to transfer to full time which they say cant it become can after a year later .I was like What the ..... When i question them why? They cant even answer.

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Mon, 26 May 2014 8:59 pm

If the way you write is any indication, it's pretty obvious all the studying in the world isn't going to help you. You best bet is to go home by the sounds of it, truth be know. You cannot sufficiently explain to us what happened, how are you going to explain it to them!?! :???:

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Postby Komatsu_Sakura » Mon, 26 May 2014 10:51 pm

sundaymorningstaple wrote:If the way you write is any indication, it's pretty obvious all the studying in the world isn't going to help you. You best bet is to go home by the sounds of it, truth be know. You cannot sufficiently explain to us what happened, how are you going to explain it to them!?! :???:


2008-2010

Study Full time Diploma and Advanced diploma in College A

2010
Im am working and on a work permit

2011
At the same time I applied to College P. I got acepted and enroll in the course
Left my first job due to cut cost . I asked College P to apply student pass for me .Their reply was
Go and get a job .Student Pass definetly wont approve one . Then i found a new job but this job didnt suit me .After 3 months i felt like resingning but i had no choice .

2012

I stayed on an an unwanted job for 6 months till they dismiss me .I asked College P to apply student pass for me .Their reply was Go and get a job .Student Pass definetly wont approve one . Same story but this time round they told me You cant transfer to full time because there is no full time course .I answered my PE back .Wasnt the full time is under dual major .I am taking a single major only and take subject is the same .For us to convert from part time to full time the school must have a full time programme then only can . My PE created another answer must take dual program . Then I was dismiss . So i asked her can i transfer to a single major in the full time . Later on things got so bad that she had no choice so she asked the Uni can i be transfered for a full time and take a single major ? And then the reply was Yes . But before that she told me you are force to take dual major and have to pay $31,000 if you want to convert no installment payment . I had no choice but to look for a job .

Then i managed to find my third job .Things were going nicely .So i did not argue with the school anymore . But one day my boss had to cut cost and the other branch were also affected . This time round my luck was very bad I got a job but i left 11 days later i resigned because my supervisor was like abusing me and not happy with me for no good reason and my boss is kind of bias (I didnt want to take the job but the school keep insisting that i better have a work permit ).My friend who use to do HR and some classmate if you cant take it better resigned .Dont drag too long .So i took their advice and resigned . This time round i start looking for job and i couldnt find one .I took my course till the end of that semester . After that there was no luck and i stayed in SG on the white card .I ran to the school since i suddenly told i was left with 20 days . I called the school and they started to ask me to get a job .I told them I cant get a job and I want a student pass .After talking for almost 1/2 hour they finally say ok . I gave them the form and everything before my time in Sg came to an end .Maximum stay is 60/90days and after that you are not allow to come in SG for 30 days. I waited for the 30 days to be over and i can return with no issues . One day the school call me to assist in the application so when the admin sent a screen shot of it .I saw the (*) marked was all left “N.A/NIL”

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