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Losing PR

Post by withyou » Tue, 20 May 2014 9:20 pm

I have been staying in Singapore with family all my life. I will need to leave Singapore to get papers done in my birth country. As my REP is expired, once I leave Singapore, I understand my PR is cancelled.


I need some help with understanding things here as I have some difficulty switching from a "local" mindset to an "expat" mindset.

1. Do I need to surrender my blue IC or will it just be invalid once I leave the country?

2. I will be heading back to Singapore for job serach right after fixing those papers. Possibly within a day or two. How long will I be able to stay in Singapore without PR?

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Post by taxico » Tue, 20 May 2014 9:37 pm

why can't you renew your REP? how old are you and how did you get your SPR?
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Post by withyou » Tue, 20 May 2014 9:51 pm

Parents are PR. Got it since young.

Once REP's expired, it's not "renew" anymore. Can't reapply without papers.

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Post by beppi » Tue, 20 May 2014 10:02 pm

It is pretty stupid to let your PR go just because of a one/two day trip.
You can then only stay 15 or 30 days in Singapore, and will possibly not get an employment pass (even if you find a job, which is difficult without PR), so you'd have to leave Singapore for good.
Renew the REP before you leave!

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Post by withyou » Tue, 20 May 2014 10:29 pm

If it's renewable, I wouldn't even be posting here. Renewing isn't an option.

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Post by Strong Eagle » Tue, 20 May 2014 10:44 pm

The big questions that need to be asked are:

a) Are you male?

If the answer is yes, then:

b) Have you done your NS?
c) Is leaving the country and dropping PR your way of avoiding NS?

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Post by Strong Eagle » Tue, 20 May 2014 10:54 pm

withyou wrote:If it's renewable, I wouldn't even be posting here. Renewing isn't an option.
What makes you think your REP isn't renewable just because it is expired?

Read this webpage: http://www.mfa.gov.sg/content/mfa/overs ... tters.html

If your REP is expired then you cannot use the e-services.

Something doesn't add up here.

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Post by beppi » Tue, 20 May 2014 11:03 pm

The authorities will renew your REP if they want you to continue staying in Singapore (they have quite a lot of discretionary power here). If they don't want you to stay, you will also not get an EP afterwards.

If this is your attempt of avoiding NS, the authorities will see that and you will also not get an EP afterwards.

In both cases: Don't bother to look for a job in Singapore, look elsewhere, as your stay after return (without PR) will be a short one!

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Post by withyou » Wed, 21 May 2014 12:23 am

This has nothing to do with NS.

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Post by Strong Eagle » Wed, 21 May 2014 1:18 am

withyou wrote:This has nothing to do with NS.
Therefore, you are either female or have completed your NS, because otherwise NS is definitely an issue.

Your lack of candor makes it impossible to answer your questions. Bye.

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Re: Losing PR

Post by Strong Eagle » Wed, 21 May 2014 1:18 am

withyou wrote:I have been staying in Singapore with family all my life. I will need to leave Singapore to get papers done in my birth country. As my REP is expired, once I leave Singapore, I understand my PR is cancelled.


I need some help with understanding things here as I have some difficulty switching from a "local" mindset to an "expat" mindset.

1. Do I need to surrender my blue IC or will it just be invalid once I leave the country?

2. I will be heading back to Singapore for job serach right after fixing those papers. Possibly within a day or two. How long will I be able to stay in Singapore without PR?
Archiving.

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Post by withyou » Wed, 21 May 2014 3:10 am

You have such a black heart. All these unnecessary assumptions and sarcasm are not helping.

Leaving is because I have to get papers done and see a loved one. Not some imaginary escape you are making up in your head.

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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Wed, 21 May 2014 6:59 am

You are still not being upfront. We cannot help if you wont help. We are not mind readers.
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Post by Strong Eagle » Wed, 21 May 2014 7:00 am

withyou wrote:You have such a black heart. All these unnecessary assumptions and sarcasm are not helping.

Leaving is because I have to get papers done and see a loved one. Not some imaginary escape you are making up in your head.
You don't seem to grasp the situation. There are many options available to people who need to get their REP renewed but without details of your circumstances, no one here can provide any advice to you, not even to your first two questions.

You refuse to provide details, and then accuse me of having a "black heart". Nothing is further from the truth. I, and others here on the board, could provide realistic advice if you weren't so unwilling to provide details.

Why do you choose to shoot yourself in the foot with respect to your PR instead of providing the information necessary so that well experienced members here can give you your best options? Do you already know it all? If so, why even post. People here are actually trying to help you, me included.

And so again, without something to go on... BUH BYE!

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Re: Losing PR

Post by bro75 » Wed, 21 May 2014 10:22 am

withyou wrote:I have been staying in Singapore with family all my life. I will need to leave Singapore to get papers done in my birth country. As my REP is expired, once I leave Singapore, I understand my PR is cancelled.


I need some help with understanding things here as I have some difficulty switching from a "local" mindset to an "expat" mindset.

1. Do I need to surrender my blue IC or will it just be invalid once I leave the country?

2. I will be heading back to Singapore for job serach right after fixing those papers. Possibly within a day or two. How long will I be able to stay in Singapore without PR?
1. Without a valid REP, your PR is automatically revoked when you leave Singapore. So I assume your IC will be invalid.
2. Depending on your nationality. If you are from an ASEAN country, you will be given a 30 day SVP. Extending this SVP is at the discretion of ICA. For other nationalities, I am not sure.

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