For two reasons:The plan is my wife and children will go to Canada and secure the PR there in Oct 2014, and I become a fly man to support them financially from Singapore. Meanwhile I will continue apply PR and bring them back until my PR is approved.
Care to elaborate why you put a higher priority to an uncertain life in Singapore vs Canadian PR?SingaporeWorker wrote:Hi all,
I am facing a difficult choice here, need some advice from you guys.
1. We are Chinese from China
2. Holding EP (P1) the basic salary 10K+/month.
3. Working as project manager in banking industry for 10 years.
4. Wife and 2 boys are holding DP and apply for PR together
5. I am going to acquire Master degree from NUS in Jul 2014
6. My wife started working in Jan 2014, as admin in a small company
My family (wife + 2 boys) have been living here in Singapore since my job was transferred from China to Singapore in Sep 2011.
We have applied for PR for 3 times, the last round was Nov 2013, and we are waiting for the "letter of rejection" - most likely I guess, as nothing has been changes significantly in our profile.
The problem is four of us are holding Canada PR, which was granted in Nov 2011 , and it will be expired by NOV 2016. The PR may be no longer valid if we are not living there by Nov 2014. (you have to stay for at least 2 year before you could renew your PR there)
We do not want to go back to China, and surely want to stay in Singapore for good.
However the Singapore PR is quite difficult to get, and most of the new policies are against foreigner since 2009, we feel not secure to put everything on my job here. Because everything depend on my job (DPs, my wife's job).
The plan is my wife and children will go to Canada and secure the PR there in Oct 2014, and I become a fly man to support them financially from Singapore. Meanwhile I will continue apply PR and bring them back until my PR is approved.
We understood the risk of doing this, and we believe it is manageable and determine to undertake the risk altogether, because the last thing we want to see is expiration of Canada PR and problem with my job here due to whatever reasons, then we have to go back to China.
There are two options for me:
1) I apply PR as family even though they would not be here after Nov 2014.
2) I apply the PR for myself, once it is done, I bring them back and apply for them.
Please help to advise which one is better, or if there is option 3.
Any piece of information or advice is helpful, thank you all in advance.
I agree. To add to what AngMoG said, your bird in the hand is the only option you have because you will lose your Canada PR for good if you try to go for the bird in the bush (Singapore PR). Better drop everything and preserve what you already have.AngMoG wrote:I think, frankly, that you have exactly two choices:
1) Stay here with your family - a P1 pass is currently not a big issue to renew currently, though that can change at the drop of a hat. As long as you have the P1, your family can also stay on DP. Let at least two years pass between your last/current rejection and your next application. Best if your profile improves (you & wife!) before you apply again.
2) Go back to Canada before Nov 2014 with your family. You already have a PR there, at least you have a secured future and no risk of being kicked out.
1 is your bird in the bush, 2 is your bird in the hand
1 is definitely risky because you simply don't know if they don't change your mind at some point in the near future and not renew your EP anymore. Or, you could lose your job and not find a new one, or not get an EP for the new one. A lot of things could happen.
To add, if you apply as a single person without including your family, it will be highly suspicious for ICA and if they find out that your family, as a unit, tries to hold on to both Canadian and Singaporean PR, you will end up losing both in the process and that will suck big time. Stick to that bird in the hand.SingaporeWorker wrote:Dear all,
Appreciated for your constructive comments. It seems the only options is going to Canada
To answer your question - why we set higher priority to Singapore:
a. Same time zone as China
b. Closer to China geographically, as my parents are living in Shanghai, it will be easier for me to approach them if anything happened
Reasonable, if you factor in filial piety that exists in many Asian cultures.
c. The Chinese culture here, it will be easier for my parent to get used in Singapore
Here you will have a problem. ICA is not keen to have collateral baggage in the form of PR's parents in Singapore, for many reasons. I'm not sure if you mean that your parents will be able to get used to Singapore as tourists or as long-term residents but trust me, ICA doesn't want them as residents together with you and they have been rejecting PR of many applicants on that basis. Which leads me to ask, did ICA ask you to send in more details of your extended family members before?
d. My boys will take advantage of speaking both mandarin and English here.
That's one good point. Although you will have both bastardised Mandarin AND English here, unless your family has the discipline to teach them to stick to the proper Mandarin and English. There is a reason Vancouver is called HongKouver (there is waaaaaay too many Chinese, regardless of the origins in Canada). Chinese culture in Canada is strong enough to instil the language in family setting.
e. The lower income tax and attractive benefits of being a Citizen here
If you can get a citizenship, but that's a nice wish to have.
f. I have a proper job with a reasonable pay, while the income will be shrunken to a large extent in Vancouver.
You will have more relaxed life, that's one way to look at that.
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