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Windfall Fruit on sidewalks/roads - whose property?

Postby PNGMK » Fri, 14 Mar 2014 7:45 pm

So my daughter picked up some mangoes off the ground today on our walk. They'd clearly fallen off a tree that was outside the boundary of a nearby property. As we were walking on some ahole Sinky starts shouting that "You blary FT stealing my mangoes". I replied that they had fallen from a tree on public property, not his. He shouted back that it was his tree. I ignored him (well gave him the finger first and some choice Hokkien words about his maternal lineage) and went on and ate one of them while walking (very good - the dry weather has done wonders for fruit trees).

I'm 99% certain I'm in the clear. The tree was a min 24" from his his fence - almost on the foot path. If they belong to anyone I imagine it's the National Parks (who maintain street side trees) or old pinky himself.

Does anyone know for sure?

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Postby singapore eagle » Fri, 14 Mar 2014 8:08 pm

It's impossible to say without seeing the exact plot, but, as a general rule, anything outside of a property's boundary is state property (managed by PUB, LTA, NParks etc.).

I know this because when we renovated our house, there was a register of everything beyond the property boundary - even the type of each individual tree on the grass verge.

Having said that, a lot of our neighbours plant their own stuff on the grass verge. Our immediate neighbour has a banana tree, and I wouldn't dream of pinching their bananas.

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Postby PNGMK » Fri, 14 Mar 2014 8:17 pm

singapore eagle wrote:It's impossible to say without seeing the exact plot, but, as a general rule, anything outside of a property's boundary is state property (managed by PUB, LTA, NParks etc.).

I know this because when we renovated our house, there was a register of everything beyond the property boundary - even the type of each individual tree on the grass verge.

Having said that, a lot of our neighbours plant their own stuff on the grass verge. Our immediate neighbour has a banana tree, and I wouldn't dream of pinching their bananas.


OK sounds like the PNG traditional family ownership model of fruit trees. (Even on our property the trees that had been planted by a former occupant were still his). I doubt that his claim will stand up though in modern Singapore.

And no, I wouldn't pinch a neighbours mangoes; but certainly a lazy turd who would rather it rot than be picked up by an FT.

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Postby x9200 » Fri, 14 Mar 2014 8:37 pm

As far as I can see from the British law which seems to be the base of the Singapore law you are on clear.

http://www.which.co.uk/documents/pdf/th ... 153989.pdf
Legally, all the fruit on the tree belongs
to the tree’s owner. However, it would
be a reasonable compromise for the owner
of the tree to let you pick the fruit in return
for allowing the branches to overhang.
If the fruit falls off, it is legally regarded
as abandoned, so you may keep it.


I also know for a fact that in EU law the fallen fruit is regarded the property of the owner of the ground it has fallen to.

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Postby Wd40 » Fri, 14 Mar 2014 8:43 pm

Seriously? He called your daughter an FT? may be they should be more creative and create more acronyms for families of FTs, like WFT, DFT, SFT,HFT, lol. But seriously, you did the right thing by showing him the middle finger.

In Tampines, we have lots of Mango trees in HDB property. You know how much south asians love mangoes(Its the king of fruits in India and its really the king, not like the stinky durian) I have seen south asians throw stones on the trees trying to pluck the mangoes. That may be considered an offence. But in your case its a fallen fruit, seriously this guy is mad.


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