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Postby x9200 » Tue, 11 Mar 2014 9:02 pm

Sounds like a complete BS to me. If they are logged into the network it should be a piece of cake to identify the cell to which they are logged to. Secondly, are they not supposed to be switched off when boarding the plane? So somebody switched the 19 phones on after something happened but nobody answers the calls? What sense does it make?

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Postby Wd40 » Tue, 11 Mar 2014 9:39 pm

watch this, this is very interesting:

Radar Playback of the Moment Malaysia Flight 370 Vanished!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JpbZZKqxy0

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Postby PNGMK » Tue, 11 Mar 2014 10:19 pm

Wd40 wrote:watch this, this is very interesting:

Radar Playback of the Moment Malaysia Flight 370 Vanished!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JpbZZKqxy0


It's a bad replace or time lapse of the transponder info. The jump back is just the shitty software's bad interpolation of the two way points. It's not "radar".

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Postby zzm9980 » Wed, 12 Mar 2014 4:08 am

PNGMK wrote:
Wd40 wrote:watch this, this is very interesting:

Radar Playback of the Moment Malaysia Flight 370 Vanished!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JpbZZKqxy0


It's a bad replace or time lapse of the transponder info. The jump back is just the shitty software's bad interpolation of the two way points. It's not "radar".


Exactly. A public website called "flightradar 24" won't have the most accurate or detailed information available.

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Postby zzm9980 » Wed, 12 Mar 2014 4:19 am

x9200 wrote:Sounds like a complete BS to me. If they are logged into the network it should be a piece of cake to identify the cell to which they are logged to. Secondly, are they not supposed to be switched off when boarding the plane? So somebody switched the 19 phones on after something happened but nobody answers the calls? What sense does it make?


I think it's completely feasible that 19 people left their phones on during takeoff, not that they switch them back on. If it crashed on land, I'd even call it feasible that the phones may have survived the impact.

The theory breaks down though in two ways:
1) If they had signal, it would be trivial to figure out the tower they were last attached to. This is how the NSA blows up 'terrorists' in real time in Afghanistan and tribal Pakistan. Western Malaysia would have better cell coverage even than that.
2) Batteries would be dead by now.

My presumption based on what I know about cell networks is that the phones were in roam mode and last registered to a Malaysian carrier. And for sake of discussion, we'll just say they had Chinese SIMs. So what happens is when you register to roam, your home carrier (Say China Unicom) knows where you're at, and routes calls to the appropriate carrier. Now since you last roamed on Maxis. Anyone that calls your number in China will be routed to Maxis. China Unicom won't instantly know your phone is off since it will still be registered in their system as being on Maxis. It isn't an instant hand-off, it might take a few seconds. During that time you'll sometimes hear ringing. Maybe once it reaches Maxis, maybe even maxis will continue to ring while it tries to figure out where on its network your phone is. This is all carrier dependent on each carrier involved as to what happens, and their own network timeouts for when they purge your phone's registration. Sometimes while I've travelled I've had it where you hear different distinct rings while calling me. Sometimes Singtel will give a message that I'm not available if my phone is off. Sometimes the foreign carrier will give it. One time I left my phone off while in China, but people kept hearing a message from PCCW in Hong Kong that I was unavailable because that's the last place my phone was on and in use. It's all inconsistent.


Note: What I describe above is just an abstracted 'logical' explanation, technical terms and processes aren't accurate. But it should convey the concept as to why those phones may still be ringing for a few days.

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Postby zzm9980 » Wed, 12 Mar 2014 4:22 am

Yep, just people looking to emigrate under the radar:

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news ... er-3228530

And these are the guys who were described by Malaysian officials as looking like Mario Balotelli:

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I don't see the resemblance. :/

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Postby Max Headroom » Wed, 12 Mar 2014 8:27 am

The official was asked by a member of the press what the person with the stolen passport looked like, alluding to the European name in the passport and the apparently non-European appearance of the person using that passport.

The official replied that a person's name, nationality or race don't necessarily have to match, invoking Mario Balotelli as an analogy.

But his quote was cut short, taken out of context. And then, like countless other MH370 spin-offs, went viral

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Postby zzm9980 » Wed, 12 Mar 2014 9:34 am

Max Headroom wrote:But his quote was cut short, taken out of context. And then, like countless other MH370 spin-offs, went viral


Well that is no fun, but makes much more sense.

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Postby morenangpinay » Wed, 12 Mar 2014 10:23 am

http://karlenepetitt.blogspot.sg/ this blog is going viral. there's one point that was very scary to think of.

I think the flight deck was compromised. The terrorists turned the transponder off. They told the captain to fly the plane toward a different city. Hong Kong comes to mind, but they could have turned back to Singapore, or head anywhere in range with one mission in mind: Create another 911 event.
- See more at: http://karlenepetitt.blogspot.sg/#sthash.MEcf9KzH.dpuf


The reason we cannot find this plane is we are looking in the wrong place. - See more at: http://karlenepetitt.blogspot.sg/#sthash.MEcf9KzH.dpuf

So now after 4days Malaysian authorities are saying the plane flew to Malacca strait

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Postby x9200 » Wed, 12 Mar 2014 11:24 am

I have no doubts the transponder can be disabled but I have strong doubts whether it would be possible to fly such plane long distance without being noticed by a radar or other equipment.
If there is such possibility at all it would required detailed knowledge of the radars location and their range along the planned routes
... unless of course a government of one of the neighboring countries is involved in the whole thing.

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Postby x9200 » Wed, 12 Mar 2014 11:34 am

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/worl ... n/6282557/

KUALA LUMPUR, Malaysia — Malaysian officials are backing away from assertions that the missing Malaysian Airlines flight made it to the Strait of Malacca after turning away from its intended course.

The country's air force chief said in a statement issued Wednesday here that the missing Boeing 777 may have attempted to turn back before it vanished from radar, but that there is no evidence it reached the Strait of Malacca off the western coast of Malaysia.

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Postby zzm9980 » Wed, 12 Mar 2014 11:49 am

morenangpinay wrote:http://karlenepetitt.blogspot.sg/ this blog is going viral. there's one point that was very scary to think of.

I think the flight deck was compromised. The terrorists turned the transponder off. They told the captain to fly the plane toward a different city. Hong Kong comes to mind, but they could have turned back to Singapore, or head anywhere in range with one mission in mind: Create another 911 event.
- See more at: http://karlenepetitt.blogspot.sg/#sthash.MEcf9KzH.dpuf


The reason we cannot find this plane is we are looking in the wrong place. - See more at: http://karlenepetitt.blogspot.sg/#sthash.MEcf9KzH.dpuf

So now after 4days Malaysian authorities are saying the plane flew to Malacca strait


"Scary" to think about maybe, but so are blood sucking aliens or zombies. They're also not very likely. Cockpits all lock from the inside now.

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Postby PNGMK » Wed, 12 Mar 2014 11:56 am

zzm9980 wrote:
morenangpinay wrote:http://karlenepetitt.blogspot.sg/ this blog is going viral. there's one point that was very scary to think of.

I think the flight deck was compromised. The terrorists turned the transponder off. They told the captain to fly the plane toward a different city. Hong Kong comes to mind, but they could have turned back to Singapore, or head anywhere in range with one mission in mind: Create another 911 event.
- See more at: http://karlenepetitt.blogspot.sg/#sthash.MEcf9KzH.dpuf


The reason we cannot find this plane is we are looking in the wrong place. - See more at: http://karlenepetitt.blogspot.sg/#sthash.MEcf9KzH.dpuf

So now after 4days Malaysian authorities are saying the plane flew to Malacca strait


"Scary" to think about maybe, but so are blood sucking aliens or zombies. They're also not very likely. Cockpits all lock from the inside now.


But a least one of the pilots has a reputation for opening up that door for passengers (women).... I think Karlene is probably close to the truth.

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Wed, 12 Mar 2014 12:52 pm

The Malaysian authorities, including the military are a bunch of bumbling idiots.
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Postby x9200 » Wed, 12 Mar 2014 1:01 pm

Sadly it looks pretty much this way.


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