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Postby morenangpinay » Mon, 10 Mar 2014 8:07 pm

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Someone's claiming it... But China is dismissing it

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Postby rajagainstthemachine » Mon, 10 Mar 2014 8:24 pm

the slick reported earlier is not from MH370 but from a ship! also all the debris reported found do not belong to MH370, so far nobody on Earth knows whats going on with this missing plane. This is looking to be the mother of all cock ups
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Postby ecureilx » Mon, 10 Mar 2014 8:52 pm

the lynx wrote:IIRC, Air France also had similar incident. AF477 also disappeared off radar at Atlantic Ocean and only after a couple of days of search and rescue when they found the aircraft. All passengers and crews were confirmed dead (though only few bodies were found).

Black box was only recovered after two years from the ocean bed.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_France_Flight_447


AF 447 went down in deeper waters ... mh370 may see closure sooner .. I pray ....

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Postby Beeroclock » Mon, 10 Mar 2014 9:57 pm

Five passengers booked on the flight did not board, and their luggage was consequently removed.

This also seems a bit irregular to have 5 passengers check luggage and then fail to board..... So many abnormalities, or else very very lucky people!

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Postby ecureilx » Mon, 10 Mar 2014 10:10 pm

Beeroclock wrote:
Five passengers booked on the flight did not board, and their luggage was consequently removed.

This also seems a bit irregular to have 5 passengers check luggage and then fail to board..... So many abnormalities, or else very very lucky people!


for MH flights you can check in luggage from KL Sentral ...

I know cases where pax checked in for earlier flight but since next flight was open plus here was no change fee, decided to delay ...

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Postby zzm9980 » Mon, 10 Mar 2014 11:26 pm

ecureilx wrote:
Beeroclock wrote:
Five passengers booked on the flight did not board, and their luggage was consequently removed.

This also seems a bit irregular to have 5 passengers check luggage and then fail to board..... So many abnormalities, or else very very lucky people!


for MH flights you can check in luggage from KL Sentral ...

I know cases where pax checked in for earlier flight but since next flight was open plus here was no change fee, decided to delay ...


SQ and CX have both delayed take offs on me for very long periods of time for the reason that they had to find and remove baggage from people who didn't board the plane. That they didn't do this in KL... I'm not entirely surprised.

Just to poke some more fun into this: It was a flight to Beijing. PRC Chinese. Those five people probably missed the flight because they were still loading up bags of goods at Prada duty-free. (hope SE and BB don't get angry at me now :P)

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Postby zzm9980 » Mon, 10 Mar 2014 11:32 pm

This is funny:

[quote]“It is confirmed now that they are not Asian looking men,”

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Postby zzm9980 » Mon, 10 Mar 2014 11:41 pm

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Postby the lynx » Tue, 11 Mar 2014 8:42 am

morenangpinay wrote:although China is not a likely target for the terrorists.What if its a terrorist group practicing a new plan (checking response time, etc.)

anyway i just feel sad for the families. can't imagine waiting for a plane that's not coming


Actually China is also under terrorism problem, based on recent events, the mass stabbings in Kunming train station perpetrated by the local terrorists of the persecuted Uighur minority.

But yeah, the families and friends of the passengers need closure. I hope this ends soon, whether good or bad.

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Postby Chelsea9 » Tue, 11 Mar 2014 8:59 am

Just curious, is all the talk about where the plane got to in its flight path and that it may have turned back based on actual radar signals or a signal from a transponder on the plane that could have been turned off? If it is a transponder that was turned off the plane could have ended up anywhere within 6 hours of its last known location?

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Postby ScoobyDoes » Tue, 11 Mar 2014 9:30 am

Chelsea9 wrote:Just curious, is all the talk about where the plane got to in its flight path and that it may have turned back based on actual radar signals or a signal from a transponder on the plane that could have been turned off? If it is a transponder that was turned off the plane could have ended up anywhere within 6 hours of its last known location?



The 'turnaround' theory comes from an investigated recording of a military radar system in Malaysia.

If the plane hit the water in one piece, straight down, finding wreckage will be quite difficult, involving a very small footprint on the ocean surface. It may only be a few days or a couple of weeks then before any wreckage will be spotted, or drifts into more common shipping lanes.

We can't ignore how long it took to find the AirFrance flight, regardless of the fact water was much deeper in that case.
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Postby BillyB » Tue, 11 Mar 2014 11:37 am

PNGMK wrote:
Strong Eagle wrote:
PNGMK wrote:Dude, I've built control systems for twenty years. Indian educated engineers are exactly the sort who would argue that a positive yoke input should have a negative elevator output. We're all upset with this tragedy though and I habe a horrible feeling it will be western 'clean skin' terrorists behind it.


Keep digging your hole deeper. More unsubstantiated BS.


I see you have the hate on. I wonder how many control systems you've worked on? How many times you've had to re-educate a programmer who is convinced his logic is correct when it's simply illogical?

My comment was in support of WD40's comment that he wouldn't want to fly on Airbus - I'm the same but perhaps not because of his Indian perspective but because I am concerned about unknown software glitches in the control system and this is a valid concern. I'd rather be on a aircraft that has cables and pulleys connecting the controls to the rudder/ailerons etc. Just google 'glass out airbus' and imagine how scary that is!

As for BB getting upset about my comments about MY - so far I see no reason to retract them; I stand by my comment that there will be mischief and ineffectiveness in the MY government or MY immigration involved in this. I note today there are reports that the Minister himself wants answers as to how the airport immigration officers allowed the two incorrectly documented passengers on board. MY citizens should be shouting about this and I'm sure they will soon.


My comments were made on your statement being discriminatory, subjective and based on no factual evidence.

The only facts we can take as given are as follows:

1. There is a 772 'missing' with limited historic radar information
2. Two or more passengers onboard 'might' have been using stolen / cloned passports
3. The plane was involved in a previous ground collision and had its wing tip repaired by Boeing

That's about it. Unfortunately, these incidents take time to resolve and wild speculation does nothing but fuel anxiety and frustration.

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Postby the lynx » Tue, 11 Mar 2014 11:52 am

[quote="zzm9980"]This is funny:

[quote]“It is confirmed now that they are not Asian looking men,”

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Postby PNGMK » Tue, 11 Mar 2014 3:25 pm

BillyB wrote:
PNGMK wrote:
Strong Eagle wrote:
PNGMK wrote:Dude, I've built control systems for twenty years. Indian educated engineers are exactly the sort who would argue that a positive yoke input should have a negative elevator output. We're all upset with this tragedy though and I habe a horrible feeling it will be western 'clean skin' terrorists behind it.


Keep digging your hole deeper. More unsubstantiated BS.


I see you have the hate on. I wonder how many control systems you've worked on? How many times you've had to re-educate a programmer who is convinced his logic is correct when it's simply illogical?

My comment was in support of WD40's comment that he wouldn't want to fly on Airbus - I'm the same but perhaps not because of his Indian perspective but because I am concerned about unknown software glitches in the control system and this is a valid concern. I'd rather be on a aircraft that has cables and pulleys connecting the controls to the rudder/ailerons etc. Just google 'glass out airbus' and imagine how scary that is!

As for BB getting upset about my comments about MY - so far I see no reason to retract them; I stand by my comment that there will be mischief and ineffectiveness in the MY government or MY immigration involved in this. I note today there are reports that the Minister himself wants answers as to how the airport immigration officers allowed the two incorrectly documented passengers on board. MY citizens should be shouting about this and I'm sure they will soon.


My comments were made on your statement being discriminatory, subjective and based on no factual evidence.

The only facts we can take as given are as follows:

1. There is a 772 'missing' with limited historic radar information
2. Two or more passengers onboard 'might' have been using stolen / cloned passports
3. The plane was involved in a previous ground collision and had its wing tip repaired by Boeing

That's about it. Unfortunately, these incidents take time to resolve and wild speculation does nothing but fuel anxiety and frustration.


Absolutely.

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Postby Wd40 » Tue, 11 Mar 2014 8:28 pm

Apparently the phones of people on the plane are still reachable after 4 days and some of them are still showing logged in, in their social media n/ws. Very intriguing

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news ... om-3228868


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