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Postby Fortan » Mon, 10 Mar 2014 8:48 am

Still hasn't been found.... very strange....

Saw somewhere that families tried to call mobile phones of people on the flight live on Chinese TV and their phones connected and rang out.... Wonder what the h%ll is going on and where that plane is. If it crashed somewhere on land surely satellites would be able to spot the heat difference in our day and age....

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Postby BedokAmerican » Mon, 10 Mar 2014 9:05 am

More about the 2 with stolen passports:

Both tickets were purchased together with Thai currency through affiliate China Southern Airlines. Both people had a scheduled plane change in Beijing and were going on to Amsterdam. After arrival in Amsterdam, they were scheduled to go to separate destinations elsewhere in Europe.

http://edition.cnn.com/2014/03/09/world ... nes-plane/
(Scroll down to the subhead "stolen passports")

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Postby Beeroclock » Mon, 10 Mar 2014 9:26 am

Fortan wrote:Still hasn't been found.... very strange....

Saw somewhere that families tried to call mobile phones of people on the flight live on Chinese TV and their phones connected and rang out.... Wonder what the h%ll is going on and where that plane is. If it crashed somewhere on land surely satellites would be able to spot the heat difference in our day and age....
reading this morning they have found some debris off Vietnam, nearby the oil slicks. Sounds like the plane might have exploded at altitude rather than on impact, and therefore no concentration of debris.
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Postby the lynx » Mon, 10 Mar 2014 9:26 am

The passenger manifest is here:

http://www.malaysiaairlines.com/content/dam/mas/master/en/pdf/Malaysia%20Airlines%20Flight%20MH%20370%20Passenger%20Manifest.pdf

Interesting when you try to study the names and their nationalities.

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Postby PNGMK » Mon, 10 Mar 2014 9:27 am

Dude, I've built control systems for twenty years. Indian educated engineers are exactly the sort who would argue that a positive yoke input should have a negative elevator output. We're all upset with this tragedy though and I habe a horrible feeling it will be western 'clean skin' terrorists behind it.

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ecureilx wrote:
Wd40 wrote:Our trip to Sydney was also on 777 both ways on FlyScoot. But I would trust this flight more than the A320s that I have been flying using Tiger and Jetstar for short hauls in the region.


you mean 320 pilots are suicidal fly death traps?

seriously?

can you qualify your statement?


Indians have good reason to mistrust Airbuses - they probably wrote the s/w!- I believe it was over India that the control software in an airbus decided to pitch down to a yoke up input and caused the plane to crash. I can't find the link tho.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_France_Flight_296

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accidents_ ... 320_family

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qantas_Flight_72

The QF72 flight is the definitive proof of a s/w error in the airbus.


I find your comments towards Malaysia and Indians insensitive, ignorant and racist. You should be ashamed of yourself as an experienced poster on this board.

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Postby Wd40 » Mon, 10 Mar 2014 10:10 am

the lynx wrote:The passenger manifest is here:

http://www.malaysiaairlines.com/content/dam/mas/master/en/pdf/Malaysia%20Airlines%20Flight%20MH%20370%20Passenger%20Manifest.pdf

Interesting when you try to study the names and their nationalities.


The only interesting thing I found is how many Chinese have names(or last names rather) starting with the letters W, X, Y and Z. For other countries I would imagine names starting with those letters is kind of rare :)

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Postby ScoobyDoes » Mon, 10 Mar 2014 10:24 am

x9200 wrote:It's kind of shocking with these stolen passports. It would seem pretty easy to implement some kind of system based on the Interpol databases.



With over 40m passports on the database can you imagine how long, when you get to an immigration counter, it would take to cross check your number against the database? It's hard enough if the database was stored on your local network but no doubt this would be cloud based or at least offsite.
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Postby Barnsley » Mon, 10 Mar 2014 11:42 am

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x9200 wrote:It's kind of shocking with these stolen passports. It would seem pretty easy to implement some kind of system based on the Interpol databases.



With over 40m passports on the database can you imagine how long, when you get to an immigration counter, it would take to cross check your number against the database? It's hard enough if the database was stored on your local network but no doubt this would be cloud based or at least offsite.


I read that UK & France at least run all passports through this database.
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Postby the lynx » Mon, 10 Mar 2014 11:54 am

Now we have 4 suspected passports and the four names are under investigations. As already mentioned here, the first two were stolen in Thailand in 2012 and 2013 and were used for two itineraries bought from one travel agent in Thailand. Part of the itineraries included that fateful flight from KL to Beijing and then towards Amsterdam before splitting into different directions.

Smells more like espionage than terrorist to me.

On another note, I have friends who have relatives and colleagues on board. I really hope there is any news on survivors. If not, at least a closure for family and friends of the passengers.

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Postby Strong Eagle » Mon, 10 Mar 2014 12:08 pm

PNGMK wrote:Dude, I've built control systems for twenty years. Indian educated engineers are exactly the sort who would argue that a positive yoke input should have a negative elevator output. We're all upset with this tragedy though and I habe a horrible feeling it will be western 'clean skin' terrorists behind it.


Keep digging your hole deeper. More unsubstantiated BS.

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Postby zzm9980 » Mon, 10 Mar 2014 12:30 pm

Wd40 wrote:The only interesting thing I found is how many Chinese have names(or last names rather) starting with the letters W, X, Y and Z. For other countries I would imagine names starting with those letters is kind of rare :)


The Chinese language doesn't use a western style alphabet, that's just how they're romanized your observation is completely meaningless.

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Postby zzm9980 » Mon, 10 Mar 2014 12:32 pm

ScoobyDoes wrote:
x9200 wrote:It's kind of shocking with these stolen passports. It would seem pretty easy to implement some kind of system based on the Interpol databases.



With over 40m passports on the database can you imagine how long, when you get to an immigration counter, it would take to cross check your number against the database? It's hard enough if the database was stored on your local network but no doubt this would be cloud based or at least offsite.


Select from a table of 40 million entries? A tenth of the time than it took me to type that question. That data could be kept locally and updated daily, probably good enough for Immigration purposes.

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Postby Wd40 » Mon, 10 Mar 2014 12:33 pm

I read the 5 theories of the missing malaysian airline. I can think of another theory, I know it sounds wierd and crazy but can there not be even the remotest possibility(like 0.0000001%) that some extraterrestrial life is involved like aliens hijacked the plane or something yet unknown to mankind like the bermuda triangle mystery.

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Postby zzm9980 » Mon, 10 Mar 2014 12:34 pm

the lynx wrote:Now we have 4 suspected passports and the four names are under investigations. As already mentioned here, the first two were stolen in Thailand in 2012 and 2013 and were used for two itineraries bought from one travel agent in Thailand. Part of the itineraries included that fateful flight from KL to Beijing and then towards Amsterdam before splitting into different directions.

Smells more like espionage than terrorist to me.


Actually, my thought was they were stolen and just being used for illegal immigration to the west. What's the point of blowing up a jet if you're not going to tell everyone you (or your group) did it?

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Postby zzm9980 » Mon, 10 Mar 2014 12:39 pm

Strong Eagle wrote:
PNGMK wrote:Dude, I've built control systems for twenty years. Indian educated engineers are exactly the sort who would argue that a positive yoke input should have a negative elevator output. We're all upset with this tragedy though and I habe a horrible feeling it will be western 'clean skin' terrorists behind it.


Keep digging your hole deeper. More unsubstantiated BS.


My anecdotal and off topic observations: Having been involved in security audits of hundreds of software projects involving teams based all over the world, including India (and give of the "top-rated" big vendors) and dozens of onsite audits at said Indian vendors, the quality of the software coming out of India is absolute shit compared to the other places I've looked at.

That said, everyone that uses India knows it and I'd be shocked if development by Airbus or Boeing for anything more significant than the inflight entertainment system was sent to India.


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