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by zzm9980 » Thu, 20 Mar 2014 6:55 am
sunbox wrote:Here is another theory which is floating around
The idea that the pilot had planned on flying for 7-odd hours over air spaces of several countries and somehow manage to avoid detection is preposterous. No plan is ever made assuming a series of blunders by various countries. Here is what I believe happened. As a passionate supporter of Anwar Ibrahim, the pilot wanted revenge from the current dispensation in Malaysia. He planned to force his own government to bring his plane down with passengers from various countries including China and cause them untold embarrassment. He flew over no airspace except Malaysian expecting to be intercepted and brought down. When no such thing happened he flew eastwards into the vast Pacific Ocean rather than the west where, for some reason, most search is currently on. Why did he switch off communications? If all he wanted to do was to commit suicide, why cut off communication? Because he wanted to avoid the possibility of his family and friends asking him to see reason over the phone.
That's pretty much the most retarded theory I've seen yet, and I've seen plenty.
They know where the plane could have been during the last satellite ping, and it is no where near the Pacific.
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by x9200 » Thu, 20 Mar 2014 7:35 am
zzm9980 wrote:My guess is a spoof. Especially considering what the local time would have been when that 777 would been overflying those island (hint: no light).
Yes, it is a spoof, but the photo looks pretty much like infrared images so it was denied authenticity not based on this but matching it with some google earth images from... 2009.
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by PNGMK » Thu, 20 Mar 2014 5:16 pm
Well it looks as thought the Aussies are onto some possible debris leads.... although I have issues with my home country I know they are professional when it comes to SAR.
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by sundaymorningstaple » Thu, 20 Mar 2014 5:28 pm
Let's hope it's not plane debris at all, because that means a worst case scenario. As it is, they are running out of potential landing sites pretty rapidly.
SOME PEOPLE TRY TO TURN BACK THEIR ODOMETERS. NOT ME. I WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW WHY I LOOK THIS WAY. I'VE TRAVELED A LONG WAY, AND SOME OF THE ROADS WEREN'T PAVED. ~ Will Rogers
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by PNGMK » Thu, 20 Mar 2014 6:30 pm
sundaymorningstaple wrote:Let's hope it's not plane debris at all, because that means a worst case scenario. As it is, they are running out of potential landing sites pretty rapidly.
For the families it will be better than never knowing though.

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by zzm9980 » Fri, 21 Mar 2014 1:09 am
sundaymorningstaple wrote:Let's hope it's not plane debris at all, because that means a worst case scenario.
I'd rate the plan having landed successfully in a hostile place and all of the passengers being executed as worst case.
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by x9200 » Fri, 21 Mar 2014 12:57 pm
I really don't get why do they report seeing some floating debris via the satellites without confirming what they are about first.
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by Beeroclock » Fri, 21 Mar 2014 2:27 pm
x9200 wrote:I really don't get why do they report seeing some floating debris via the satellites without confirming what they are about first.
Australia trying to grab some PR mileage
Seriously I think damned if you do, damned if you don't. If you hold it back will be accused of secrecy / not being transparent.....
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by sundaymorningstaple » Fri, 21 Mar 2014 2:33 pm
^^This.
SOME PEOPLE TRY TO TURN BACK THEIR ODOMETERS. NOT ME. I WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW WHY I LOOK THIS WAY. I'VE TRAVELED A LONG WAY, AND SOME OF THE ROADS WEREN'T PAVED. ~ Will Rogers
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by x9200 » Fri, 21 Mar 2014 3:03 pm
Beeroclock wrote:x9200 wrote:I really don't get why do they report seeing some floating debris via the satellites without confirming what they are about first.
Australia trying to grab some PR mileage
Seriously I think damned if you do, damned if you don't. If you hold it back will be accused of secrecy / not being transparent.....
They announce it like the likelihood was high while I think they should do it exactly the opposite way. Just the facts, no speculations. I don't think it is good for PR if there is a failure.
But maybe this is not the agencies but the media.
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by Beeroclock » Fri, 21 Mar 2014 3:15 pm
x9200 wrote:Beeroclock wrote:x9200 wrote:I really don't get why do they report seeing some floating debris via the satellites without confirming what they are about first.
Australia trying to grab some PR mileage
Seriously I think damned if you do, damned if you don't. If you hold it back will be accused of secrecy / not being transparent.....
They announce it like the likelihood was high while I think they should do it exactly the opposite way. Just the facts, no speculations. I don't think it is good for PR if there is a failure.
But maybe this is not the agencies but the media.
I thought it's the Prime Minister himself announcing this in Australia.... I do wonder if he trying to extract political mileage, especially as a relatively new PM. I think they all know the best opportunities for credibility/stature as a leader and rising above domestic politics is to deal effectively with international/military issues. Australia is in a huge mess in their relationship with Indonesia after spying was revealed, so when this came up and Malaysia is in its moment of need with most neighbouring countries acting passive or critically, Australia is forthcoming to take the lead in the southern corridor search. My immediate thought it's a smart political move by PM Abbott to offset his dire Indonesia relationship by cosying up with Malaysia, and bolster his image as a leader by acting firm and decisive on the international stage.....
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by x9200 » Fri, 21 Mar 2014 4:45 pm
Thanks for the explanation Beeroclock. At least from an outsider's perspective (me) and taking into account the overall failure rate of all the efforts and declarations of this rescue mission, it seems rather risky to make such strong statements (about credible information). And now I understand they still have troubles to locate the debris.
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by PNGMK » Fri, 21 Mar 2014 7:45 pm
Tony Abbott : Respect.
He will be one of Australia's great leaders in due course.
Another John Howard.
(Cue political bunfight).
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by zzm9980 » Mon, 24 Mar 2014 11:32 pm
So Malaysian PM has announced the flight was lost. As of right now I haven't seen any evidence that they know it was there. The news stories are just referencing the fact they haven't found it, satellite photos of debris, and an "analysis" which says it had to have flown towards the southern Indian ocean.
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by x9200 » Mon, 24 Mar 2014 11:45 pm
It was also speculated that the PM's statement was probably based on what the Chinese airplane has spotted and the Australian ships eventually found.
More details are said to be released tomorrow.
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