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Postby ecureilx » Sun, 16 Mar 2014 7:43 pm

sundaymorningstaple wrote:But if you think about it, most of the countries north & west of the Andaman Sea have decent military radar, that pretty sure it would have been picked up as an intruder. Same goes with Australia. That cuts out probably 80% of those airfields.


I saw a news that India has ruled out any intrusion into their territory ... where they have complete Radar coverage

that leaves ... out ... China to the north?

oh wait ... it cannot be in China ... China has no terror trouble ... officially ....

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Postby zzm9980 » Mon, 17 Mar 2014 2:45 am

sundaymorningstaple wrote:But if you think about it, most of the countries north & west of the Andaman Sea have decent military radar, that pretty sure it would have been picked up as an intruder. Same goes with Australia. That cuts out probably 80% of those airfields.


Yes, but how many of those countries would you consider relatively more competent than Malaysia? It's quite a low bar, but still not one most of those to the north would meet.

ecureilx wrote:I saw a news that India has ruled out any intrusion into their territory ... where they have complete Radar coverage


See my point above. I wouldn't expect India to handle it any better than Malaysia, unless it came directly over the border with Pakistan headed towards Delhi.

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Postby Strong Eagle » Mon, 17 Mar 2014 11:47 am

rajagainstthemachine wrote:somebody on twitter found this old Malaysian Airlines Ad :lol: :lol:

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Obviously photoshopped. That's a A380.

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Postby ecureilx » Mon, 17 Mar 2014 11:52 am

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See my point above. I wouldn't expect India to handle it any better than Malaysia, unless it came directly over the border with Pakistan headed towards Delhi.


plus considering the Mega Bucks India has been spending of late on surveillance gear they dare not admit if there was an intrusion indeed ..

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Postby x9200 » Mon, 17 Mar 2014 1:08 pm

In other words, somebody did pretty good analytical-intelligence job hijacking this plane or so it seems.
Whatever the reason was.

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Postby rajagainstthemachine » Mon, 17 Mar 2014 1:48 pm

ecureilx wrote:
zzm9980 wrote:
See my point above. I wouldn't expect India to handle it any better than Malaysia, unless it came directly over the border with Pakistan headed towards Delhi.


plus considering the Mega Bucks India has been spending of late on surveillance gear they dare not admit if there was an intrusion indeed ..


I read an article somewhere that mentioned that the Indian Military doesn't turn on the radar all the time and uses it sporadically.
To get there early is on time and showing up on time is late

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Postby Beeroclock » Mon, 17 Mar 2014 3:03 pm

The focus certainly turning to the pilot.... this seems a key point if it turns out to be true.

On Sunday, unconfirmed reports suggested his wife and three children moved out of the family home the day before the flight went missing. However, Malaysia’s inspector general of police stressed that all 239 passengers were still under investigation.

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Postby x9200 » Mon, 17 Mar 2014 4:53 pm

There is already a pretty comprehensive Wikipedia page available:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malaysia_A ... Flight_370

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Postby zzm9980 » Mon, 17 Mar 2014 11:34 pm

rajagainstthemachine wrote:
ecureilx wrote:
zzm9980 wrote:
See my point above. I wouldn't expect India to handle it any better than Malaysia, unless it came directly over the border with Pakistan headed towards Delhi.


plus considering the Mega Bucks India has been spending of late on surveillance gear they dare not admit if there was an intrusion indeed ..


I read an article somewhere that mentioned that the Indian Military doesn't turn on the radar all the time and uses it sporadically.


Can't afford the power bill? :D

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Postby earthfriendly » Tue, 18 Mar 2014 12:02 am

The technology is there but not turned on at all times due to cost. Everyday we are faced with cost-benefit analysis right? At the supermarket, I have to consider hmnnnnnnnnn............. to buy the lobster or get the baby shrimp instead :P .

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Postby x9200 » Tue, 18 Mar 2014 7:26 am


Yep, interesting, but shouldn't the radar signal match some expected airplane signature? I miss this point in the whole hypothesis together with some indication how far away the two planes should stay apart to be considered by the radars as a single body (question of resolution).

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Postby ecureilx » Tue, 18 Mar 2014 8:49 am

x9200 wrote:

Yep, interesting, but shouldn't the radar signal match some expected airplane signature? I miss this point in the whole hypothesis together with some indication how far away the two planes should stay apart to be considered by the radars as a single body (question of resolution).


3d radars can detect two planes flying at different altitude unless the MH 777 was flying dangerously close to the SQ plane

and India has been busy perfecting the capability of their home grown 3d radars.... since sometime ago, and are confident enough to export it .... unlikely for India to have missed two planes in one blip ...

I dunno about resolution etc ..

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Postby Beeroclock » Tue, 18 Mar 2014 9:28 am

ecureilx wrote:
x9200 wrote:

Yep, interesting, but shouldn't the radar signal match some expected airplane signature? I miss this point in the whole hypothesis together with some indication how far away the two planes should stay apart to be considered by the radars as a single body (question of resolution).


3d radars can detect two planes flying at different altitude unless the MH 777 was flying dangerously close to the SQ plane

and India has been busy perfecting the capability of their home grown 3d radars.... since sometime ago, and are confident enough to export it .... unlikely for India to have missed two planes in one blip ...

I dunno about resolution etc ..
I thought India admitted their radar could've been switched off, "only used on an as needed basis " ..... whatever that means :shock:

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Postby bgd » Tue, 18 Mar 2014 9:29 am

Malaysian military radar didn't detect the aircraft changing course and it would have been visible. Not sure how much reliance you can place on military radar, which does surprise me somewhat. Perhaps borders are not as protected as we imagine.


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