Yeah, that's right but isn't there a ballpark estimate of the timeline when an application (let's say my application) is likely to succeed for a PR? I think the most important criterion for the govt to approve is the combined salary and the tenure to marriage. So, wouldn't a two year wait post marriage be a sufficient enough time period for a greater probability to succeed?taxico wrote:better to stay on EP than LTVP - you can't work on LTVP during the first year i think.
you are right, PR is not "automatic," neither is it guaranteed.
i think the general consensus is: the longer you two are married, the more money both of you make, the more kids you two have, the better it is for your application. i get the impression boy kids get brownie points.
hmmm..got it! However, what happens usually in such cases is people analyze the historical data (quality and quantity of applications/ cases) to determine the probability of success. I know Singapore government hates 'consultants', etc. for processing applications, but isn't it advisable to approach the immigration consultants for an advice on such matters because they would've completed this process for innumerable applicants before as well?Wd40 wrote:No, the process of Singapore PR evaluation is a complete blackbox and there is absolutely no sure shot success formula. It is very well possible that people from certain categories may never ever get PR in their lifetime no matter how much they earn and what they do. Not saying that this will happen to you, though.
Its not like the Australia PR process which is points based, where if you have the reqd number of points you will get the PR eventually.
Seeing you have already determined in your mind a solution that flies in the face of what we know and have known over the past 8 years of this board and the hundreds of successes and rejections, there is nothing we can say so, therefore, give your hard earned dollars to a consultant if you would like. They are all like PT Barnum, they know there is a fool born every second and they will milk those that they can. The odds of being successful using a consultant is exactly the same as doing it yourself.RockyRambo wrote:hmmm..got it! However, what happens usually in such cases is people analyze the historical data (quality and quantity of applications/ cases) to determine the probability of success. I know Singapore government hates 'consultants', etc. for processing applications, but isn't it advisable to approach the immigration consultants for an advice on such matters because they would've completed this process for innumerable applicants before as well?Wd40 wrote:No, the process of Singapore PR evaluation is a complete blackbox and there is absolutely no sure shot success formula. It is very well possible that people from certain categories may never ever get PR in their lifetime no matter how much they earn and what they do. Not saying that this will happen to you, though.
Its not like the Australia PR process which is points based, where if you have the reqd number of points you will get the PR eventually.
Thanks, however, I won't be marrying for convenience to get a ticket or something. It's just that a marriage is a big step and you need to be careful and plan things accordingly and that's why you come and ask people and gather information. I understand your POV very well on this.sundaymorningstaple wrote:Seeing you have already determined in your mind a solution that flies in the face of what we you know that there is no way you would get it on you current salary. ICA is a darn sight smarter that you think. They seen it all, I assure you.RockyRambo wrote:hmmm..got it! However, what happens usually in such cases is people analyze the historical data (quality and quantity of applications/ cases) to determine the probability of success. I know Singapore government hates 'consultants', etc. for processing applications, but isn't it advisable to approach the immigration consultants for an advice on such matters because they would've completed this process for innumerable applicants before as well?Wd40 wrote:No, the process of Singapore PR evaluation is a complete blackbox and there is absolutely no sure shot success formula. It is very well possible that people from certain categories may never ever get PR in their lifetime no matter how much they earn and what they do. Not saying that this will happen to you, though.
Its not like the Australia PR process which is points based, where if you have the reqd number of points you will get the PR eventually.
Yeah! I do understand all what you're saying. My basic question was that is there a timeline when I should apply after marriage? As in, all of you being so experienced (being there done that) about it, so you would know that , let's say, if I apply before 2 years, I am bound to get rejected, etc.sundaymorningstaple wrote:Rocky, the reason I am saying all of that is that I have personally made all the mistakes and paid the price with time in order to get my PR. That is the reason the ICA officer told me, many years later. Been there, done that. Marrying a Singaporean does NOT confer any rights or benefits at all when applying for PR. If fact, when you marry, ROM will make you sign a statement confirming that you understand that very fact, so, if you ARE marrying for convenience, I suggest you have another look, as your family probably aren't happy either.
So the easiest way is to get a P1 by earning at least 8k ! The bottom line is that the sg government looks at salary as one of the most important factors in determining any kind of an outcome whatsoever it maybe.sundaymorningstaple wrote:Add to that, the fact the Rocky seems to be on either a Q or P2 EP which might not be looked on favourably either considering that is smack in the middle of the PMETs that Singapore is promoting for their own.
i don't think so. it's really a total package more than just one major component... (except for malaysian chinese appliants, i think)RockyRambo wrote:...So the easiest way is to get a P1 by earning at least 8k ! The bottom line is that the sg government looks at salary as one of the most important factors in determining any kind of an outcome whatsoever it maybe.
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