Wd40 wrote:Mi Amigo, 1st of all salaries in Singapore are not cast in stone, so to speak. Its completely upto the negotiation skills and desperation of both the prospective employee and the employer. Its not like a company comes out with a job and fixes salary as X and then when an EP holder applies he gets X and if a PR applies he gets X+CPF. If this was true then I would have never made that statement.
Yes of course salary and other benefits are subject to negotiation between an employer and potential employee. But in my case (and I suspect many others too), I was not paid any kind of 'CPF allowance' while on EP but my employer did start paying CPF when I became PR.
Wd40 wrote:In real life, the X is a range and when an EP holder applies the range gets wider on the upside because for the employer it doesnt matter whether they pay it in hand or as CPF. So if a EP holder is not desperate he could get the X+CPF. If he is desperate he might actually end up earning significantly less than X.
Sorry but the above makes no sense to me. The employer will obviously need to factor whether or not they need to make CPF contributions - or, if they are are in your specific industry they may need to factor in a 'CPF equivalent' payment to an EP holder if it is considered the 'norm' for that specific group.
Here's the point I'm trying to make, which you still don't seem willing to accept. You stated...
Wd40 wrote:For most people this is not a benefit, companies usually pay the CPF contribution directly into the hands of the EP holders.
... Which, in my (and more importantly SMS's) experience is not
the case overall in Singapore.
On this forum we try to provide information that is as accurate as possible, so that it will hopefully be of maximum benefit to people who are seeking out details on what to negotiate / reasonably expect when considering a move to SG. I think you were doing them a disservice by making a sweeping statement that doesn't seem to stack up in the wider community. If you'd said something like "In my industry (IT) is it quite common for employers to pay the CPF contribution directly into the hands of the EP holders" that would have been different. But you didn't. You stated that for most
people this would usually
be a benefit, which doesn't seem to be the case.
Do you see my point now?
EDIT: I See you have changed your previous post and added more text since I started replying, but my comments above still stand.