Ex-PR wants to study in Singapore

[akashsriram]

I am an Ex- Permanent Resident of Singapore my parents cancelled it when i was 12 years old because I had to return to India due to family circumstances.I miss Singapore badly and want to pursue Automotive Engineering at NUS. Will I be able to get a Student's Pass? because I have heard of a person who got an EP with a similar background and they said that since he did not evade NS so he is eligible.

I am planning to settle down in SG after my course and take a PR and do NS but I am sure about it yet. I would love to be back because I simply love Singapore and the people and the quality of education available at NUS.

Please reply quickly as this is a very important decision in my life.

[sundaymorningstaple]

Are you sure that your family problems weren't just your parents exercising their desires to have you avoid NS?

Seriously, I assume your parents went through the proper protocols. If they did, then there is no reason why not. We have seen the odd case or two where some have been allowed to come here a work, but I don't remember seeing one coming back to study. I don't know your age, but I'm pretty sure they would find a way for you to do NS before starting your studies. But on the flip side, if your parents followed protocol, then you shouldn't even be saddled with NS either UNLESS, you decided you wanted to stay here.

My advice? Apply and see where it goes. You need to get accepted by the school first. One hurdle at a time and you are not going to be able to put the cart before the horse. That's a gamble you will have to take.

Wish you luck.

[PNGMK]

Here's a better answer; don't study Automotive Engineering at NUS. There must be (I kid you not) at least 12 better places to do it at.

There are NO car factories in Singapore.

[avaloni]

I dun think the chances are high for a student pass (speaking from friend's experience). But I agree that you should still apply for the position first and see how it goes.

[akashsriram]

Thanks for the quick reply.....
I would like to know what you exactly mean by proper channels?
and also I'll tell you why NUS.....
I do not aim at working in car factories, I want to do PG after that and look at motor sports industries like F1 or WRc or MotoGP and NUS one of the best Formula SAE programs in asia and is cheaper than Unis in UK,Germany,US etc. and a degree from is recognized very well.
and also I know the place to be safe, and people to be nice as I have lived there for a fairly long time.
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[sundaymorningstaple]

I did not say proper channels. Please go back and re-read my post.

[rdueej]

There are a few different ways in which your situation could turn out, but in all the cases, the path taken by you is going to be the same.
( Frankly, the bridges might have already burned when you renounced PR and there is nothing about it that you can change now.)

I would suggest the following plan of action.

1. Apply to NUS with your grades and other credentials for the degree that you want to study. Your ex-PR status will not be an issue when you submit your application. (*)

2. NUS makes a conditional offer of admission and then proceeds to apply for your student pass at ICA. (^)

3. At this point ICA could do a number of things
a. approve your student pass (the ideal case, everything works out)
b. reject your application for student pass with no information provided
c. reject your application for student pass, ask you to apply for re-instatement of PR -> you will complete NS -> then allowed to join NUS. (I do not know if this is even a possibility, just putting it out there)

4.
a. If ICA gives approval for your pass, then your NUS offer is made formal, you can arrive to Singapore, register with the university and proceed with your studies.
b. If ICA rejects your application, your NUS offer will be rescinded.

(*) Be a smart guy and apply to other universities as well. What do they say about eggs and baskets ?

(^) I should have inserted a major IF at the start of this point. The number of Indian students admitted has been dropping and I would expect single-digit numbers in the annual intake of Indian students for the undergraduate mechanical engineering degree. Unless you are packing an Olympiad medal or at the level of an IIT ranker, I would expect the possibility of admission to the undergraduate programme to be low. (A lot of pressure on the university in recent years to restrict the international intake to a minimum)

[PNGMK]

Thanks for the quick reply.....
I would like to know what you exactly mean by proper channels?
and also I'll tell you why NUS.....
I do not aim at working in car factories, I want to do PG after that and look at motor sports industries like F1 or WRc or MotoGP and NUS one of the best Formula SAE programs in asia and is cheaper than Unis in UK,Germany,US etc. and a degree from is recognized very well.
and also I know the place to be safe, and people to be nice as I have lived there for a fairly long time.
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But there are no F1 companies here... so you'll graduate and then have to find a job somewhere else. Why not go to that somewhere else in the first place?

[akashsriram]

I'd like to know what you mean by proper protocols[\b]?

[sundaymorningstaple]

I'd like to know what you mean by proper protocols[\b]?

http://forum.singaporeexpats.com/ftopic61423.html

[the lynx]

Means when OP's parents renounced his PR, they did so before minimum age requirement, or have him done NS before renouncing his PR. I personally do not know what's the minimum age requirement to renounce a child's PR. Gotta check it up.

[sundaymorningstaple]

Just read the link I posted. It's the most comprehensive gathering of data regarding NS issues you will find in one place on the net.

[akashsriram]

Means when OP's parents renounced his PR, they did so before minimum age requirement, or have him done NS before renouncing his PR. I personally do not know what's the minimum age requirement to renounce a child's PR. Gotta check it up.

Hi, sundaymorningstaple, do you know the minimum age or can you find it out for me please? I was 12 when it was renounced and I am 18 now.

[sundaymorningstaple]

Your parents would have gotten a letter or some sort of notification that your NS obligation had been canceled. If it was properly done, it should have been done somewhere between the age of 11 & 13. So, I would assume it was done correctly. Ask your parents. Anyway, regardless of the method, apply anyway, as this is the only way you are going to find out. The sooner you find out the better for you to make other plans, if necessary.

[akashsriram]

Your parents would have gotten a letter or some sort of notification that your NS obligation had been canceled. If it was properly done, it should have been done somewhere between the age of 11 & 13. So, I would assume it was done correctly. Ask your parents. Anyway, regardless of the method, apply anyway, as this is the only way you are going to find out. The sooner you find out the better for you to make other plans, if necessary.

Thanks for the reply i guess it was done properly and we did get such a letter. So i guess I am on the safe side. but anyway applying is the only way to find out as you said, I'll apply ASAP.
Thanks again!