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Postby JR8 » Thu, 06 Feb 2014 12:45 pm

Primrose Hill wrote:I like John Denver's version too. I agree. Earn the $$$, fill that pension pot and leave. However, not sure if London is my retirement place either :oops: :roll:


Haha, yes. I think that was the first song I learned to play on both piano, and guitar. It has to have the simplest chord structure of just about any song known to man :)

Retirement in London is not for me either. 'Time and place'. Singapore is urban, noisy and gritty. London (indeed most capital cities) are similar. I grew up in a *very* rural area, but don't kid myself I could return to that. You survive in the countryside by having an entire yet unspoken social support network of friends and contacts. Newbies don't have that. Plus, my wife might romanticise the rural life, but I suspect the reality of it might be a little bit of a surprise :)

So, we're considering moving to Cambridge. I lived there nigh on 30 years ago, so know it pretty well. It's a city, but of a much slower pace than London. Well positioned to travel the country, and generally pretty civilised. Probably no need for a car to get around. I can't think of anywhere to compete on the same terms...

- Oxford, nice, but ruined by traffic. Plus for me it doesn't have that sense of a walk-able cohesive historic city centre with suburbs scattered around.
- Ipswich/Norwich, no, too 'small-town'
- Brighton. Could work, but geographically quite out on a limb
- Can't think of anywhere else.

So maybe this is why my mind is entering 'exit phase'. As the juggling needed to take this next geographic step is both a big mental and financially complex one. On the latter point I'm suspecting that we might just have to return to London for a year or so, and plan our battle from there. It's complex though considering 'non-resident status' and CGT and all of that... :p

So how about you? Where might you consider living? :)

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Postby Steve1960 » Thu, 06 Feb 2014 1:14 pm

I know Cambridge very well, its where my company HQ is and I worked there for 16 years before moving to the red dot. It is still a very pleasant city but I would be concerned it will move in the same direction as Oxford during your retirement. It is already beginning to get crowded and clogged with traffic (I was there a little over 2 weeks ago) :-(

For me it has to be the Philippines. Wife from there, love the people and low cost of living. After two divorces I need a low cost haven for my retirement!

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Postby Sergei82 » Thu, 06 Feb 2014 1:17 pm

That's too many divorces. Without it you'd have thout about retiring in Singapore, wouldn't you? :)

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Postby Steve1960 » Thu, 06 Feb 2014 1:22 pm

Sergei82 wrote:That's too many divorces. Without it you'd have thout about retiring in Singapore, wouldn't you? :)


haha love your posts lately Sergei you are on fire :cool:

Maybe it's too many marriages rather than divorces? :-)

Nah, wouldn't retire here and never considered it. It was always a short term deal for me. Planning to buy property in Philippines later this year in preparation.

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Thu, 06 Feb 2014 1:23 pm

I gotta agree with Steve on this one. Two divorces is just about right! :lol: And no, I don't think I'll be retiring in Singapore even though my wife is from here.

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Postby nakatago » Thu, 06 Feb 2014 1:23 pm

Steve1960 wrote:Nah, wouldn't retire here and never considered it. It was always a short term deal for me. Planning to buy property in Philippines later this year in preparation.


You need to be a citizen to own real estate. Otherwise, you can only at most own 49% of property.

Condos don't count since they're not "on land."

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Postby Steve1960 » Thu, 06 Feb 2014 1:26 pm

nakatago wrote:
Steve1960 wrote:Nah, wouldn't retire here and never considered it. It was always a short term deal for me. Planning to buy property in Philippines later this year in preparation.


You need to be a citizen to own real estate. Otherwise, you can only at most own 49% of property.

Condos don't count since they're not "on land."


Yes I know which is why we will buy in my wife's name.....................and cross my fingers there is no 3rd divorce

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Postby Sergei82 » Thu, 06 Feb 2014 1:45 pm

sundaymorningstaple wrote:I gotta agree with Steve on this one. Two divorces is just about right! :lol: And no, I don't think I'll be retiring in Singapore even though my wife is from here.

SMS will never retire!

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Postby nakatago » Thu, 06 Feb 2014 1:59 pm

Steve1960 wrote:
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Steve1960 wrote:Nah, wouldn't retire here and never considered it. It was always a short term deal for me. Planning to buy property in Philippines later this year in preparation.


You need to be a citizen to own real estate. Otherwise, you can only at most own 49% of property.

Condos don't count since they're not "on land."


Yes I know which is why we will buy in my wife's name.....................and cross my fingers there is no 3rd divorce


Get married again in the Philippines to get a Philippine issued marriage certificate (civil wedding will do and a mayor can do it). No divorce there.

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Postby Steve1960 » Thu, 06 Feb 2014 2:31 pm

nakatago wrote:
Steve1960 wrote:
nakatago wrote:
Steve1960 wrote:Nah, wouldn't retire here and never considered it. It was always a short term deal for me. Planning to buy property in Philippines later this year in preparation.


You need to be a citizen to own real estate. Otherwise, you can only at most own 49% of property.

Condos don't count since they're not "on land."


Yes I know which is why we will buy in my wife's name.....................and cross my fingers there is no 3rd divorce


Get married again in the Philippines to get a Philippine issued marriage certificate (civil wedding will do and a mayor can do it). No divorce there.


Yes it was just a joke! We were married in Makati more than two years ago, civil service as you describe :-)

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Postby Steve1960 » Thu, 06 Feb 2014 2:44 pm

EP renewal submitted today so who knows this thread might mean more to me than I realise

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Thu, 06 Feb 2014 2:49 pm

nakatago wrote:
Steve1960 wrote:
nakatago wrote:
Steve1960 wrote:Nah, wouldn't retire here and never considered it. It was always a short term deal for me. Planning to buy property in Philippines later this year in preparation.


You need to be a citizen to own real estate. Otherwise, you can only at most own 49% of property.

Condos don't count since they're not "on land."


Yes I know which is why we will buy in my wife's name.....................and cross my fingers there is no 3rd divorce


Get married again in the Philippines to get a Philippine issued marriage certificate (civil wedding will do and a mayor can do it). No divorce there.


This is part of my headache as well, with regards to my nephew and his little girl who live with me. The wife is in the 'peens for the past 6 years and no chance of a reconciliation. They got married in the 'peens. Now, he's royally phucked AND if it's not bad enough, wants to marry ANOTHER filipino gal who is in the 'peens (formerly an S pass holder here). Stupid is as stupid does? He would make an excellent forest gump!

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Postby Steve1960 » Thu, 06 Feb 2014 2:52 pm

Jeez he does know how to make things difficult doesn't he!

As if divorce itself isn't difficult enough the bureaucracy to get anything done in the Philippines is a nightmare.

I wish him luck.

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Postby zzm9980 » Thu, 06 Feb 2014 2:54 pm

nakatago wrote:Get married again in the Philippines to get a Philippine issued marriage certificate (civil wedding will do and a mayor can do it). No divorce there.


Worst. Advice. Ever. :cool:

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Thu, 06 Feb 2014 5:39 pm

FACT! see my post above! :o


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