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Re: Tenancy agreements/leases and your rights as a tenant

Post by pleaseplease » Sat, 17 Oct 2020 11:28 am

Hi All,

I'm back from my last post in Sep, quick update since then she has gone berserk and started shouting and banging at my door late at night.

She asked for the termination of the agreement but I said I wouldn't unless she agrees to return the deposit which she agreed!! So I moved out at the end of Sep with the expectation that she would return the deposit that she has actually agreed on multiple accounts. It has been 3 weeks now, no deposit and she has blocked me and refuse to talk to me.

I get that I shouldn't expect to get my deposit back but the only reason I agreed to move out was because she agreed to so, I'm now still looking for a place, waiting for my deposit, I tried visiting her in person but she locked all windows and doors and I asked her neighbours if she was around and everyone on the floor agreed that she's problematic and doesn't talk to her.

Should I go up to HDB board because the tenancy agreement is still valid until this year end, technically I can argue on the fact that she 'kicked' me out without reason?

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Re: Tenancy agreements/leases and your rights as a tenant

Post by PNGMK » Sat, 17 Oct 2020 11:37 am

You should not have returned the keys without your deposit back. You could raise a case at SCT.
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Post by tt1973 » Sun, 18 Oct 2020 6:19 pm

I agree with PNGMK, you should lodge a claim at the Small Claims Tribunal.

The SCT will then summon the Landlord and you for a mediation session. I strongly believe you have a case here.

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Re: Tenancy agreements/leases and your rights as a tenant

Post by pleaseplease » Sun, 18 Oct 2020 11:42 pm

Right, so I should skip going up to the HDB board all together?

Just wanting to cover all grounds, what are the chances of me losing the case ie. she can say something crazy or make something up, and being a non-singapore citizen, will this cost me anything down the road?

Thanks!

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Post by therat » Mon, 19 Oct 2020 4:50 pm

HDB dont involve in TA.
It is stated in HDB

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Re: Tenancy agreements/leases and your rights as a tenant

Post by pleaseplease » Mon, 19 Oct 2020 6:49 pm

Ok thanks all, should I also request for a tenancy termination letter from the LL since the lease is only ending in Dec?

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Post by eddtangers » Wed, 28 Oct 2020 11:26 pm

Hi all, I've just moved to Singapore and have been looking for flats for about 2 weeks and have finally narrowed down to two. So I don't want to sign an LOI, instead I prefer going straight to the tenancy agreement. I will be going to meet my agent to go through all the T&C to make sure they are fine and he is expecting me to sign there and then.

My question is - when do I check the proof of ownership of the condo as the landlord will not be there and I have not met him yet either.
Am I supposed to be paying him the first month rental and deposit as soon as I sign? My concern is that the landlord hasn't signed - it would be me signing first and I guess the agent would hand it to the landlord to sign after but I do not know when.
I want to double check all appliances are working before actually signing - is that common practise here in Singapore?
I have confirmed with him that I will be moving in next Saturday so if I sign the TA on Monday, I assume they will give me the keys on my move in date. Is it common to do it this way? And also, is it risky considering I would have handed over money and have to wait until Sat to get the keys?

The agent seems legit he is registered on CEA and works at ERA.

Thanks for your attention and any thoughts on the above would be appreciated!

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Re: Tenancy agreements/leases and your rights as a tenant

Post by sndy » Mon, 16 Nov 2020 2:12 pm

eddtangers wrote:
Wed, 28 Oct 2020 11:26 pm
Hi all, I've just moved to Singapore and have been looking for flats for about 2 weeks and have finally narrowed down to two. So I don't want to sign an LOI, instead I prefer going straight to the tenancy agreement. I will be going to meet my agent to go through all the T&C to make sure they are fine and he is expecting me to sign there and then.

My question is - when do I check the proof of ownership of the condo as the landlord will not be there and I have not met him yet either.
Am I supposed to be paying him the first month rental and deposit as soon as I sign? My concern is that the landlord hasn't signed - it would be me signing first and I guess the agent would hand it to the landlord to sign after but I do not know when.
I want to double check all appliances are working before actually signing - is that common practise here in Singapore?
I have confirmed with him that I will be moving in next Saturday so if I sign the TA on Monday, I assume they will give me the keys on my move in date. Is it common to do it this way? And also, is it risky considering I would have handed over money and have to wait until Sat to get the keys?

The agent seems legit he is registered on CEA and works at ERA.

Thanks for your attention and any thoughts on the above would be appreciated!
You shouldn't be paying anything until the contract is signed by all parties.

My advise would be to pay the deposit only after you go through and understand the agreement and is signed by ll.
First rental to be paid only after you move in, post takeover. Get all things requiring repair/replacement in writing.

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Re: Tenancy agreements/leases and your rights as a tenant

Post by sundaymorningstaple » Tue, 17 Nov 2020 12:43 am

Another thing worth doing is have an inspection along with the Agent ( the LL may actually not even be living in Singapore) before signing anything and to burn up a fair number of photos of all things that look somewhat shady and the rest of the flat in general and make two copies burned on CDs, one for the Agent/Owner as acceptance on the condition of the flat at the time of takeover with a signed by the agent/LL notice of acceptance for your own records, and one for your own records. May save lot of tears and aggravation later.

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Re: Tenancy agreements/leases and your rights as a tenant

Post by PNGMK » Tue, 17 Nov 2020 10:18 am

I wasn't going to comment as previous poster is probably already moved in but you need to negotiate for white goods, better furniture, extra crockery etc BEFORE you sign the lease.
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