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PR approval chance in 2020

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Re: PR approval chance in 2020

Post by sundaymorningstaple » Thu, 01 Oct 2020 11:35 am

^^^^I concur.

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Re: PR approval chance in 2020

Post by StuntCicak » Thu, 01 Oct 2020 2:22 pm

Hello,

Thank you for this very informative thread and clear guidance. Could you please give me your opinion on my profile:

Gender: F
Age: 43
Marital status: Single
Nationality: Spain
Ethnicity: Caucasian
Diplomas: BS, MBA (Europe)
Industry: Tech company (Facebook)
Role: Program manager
Salary: 250k
Pass: EP, same company since 2014
Stay in Singapore: 11y combined since 2009 (had an EP, PEP and unemployed for ~6months in total in between jobs before the 2014 job and only ever left Singapore 1-2 weeks when unemployed to renew visa). I understand 2014 is a reset point for duration of stay for this application .

If I were to guesstimate I’d say very low to no chances. Cons are age, ethnicity and probably job isn’t specialised enough (that could change in the next 6 months towards cybersecurity specialisation). I think I missed my window and would have had better chances ~3-4y ago if I had planned it from the start, but keen to hear your thoughts on this self-assessment!

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Re: PR approval chance in 2020

Post by singaporeflyer » Thu, 01 Oct 2020 3:54 pm

StuntCicak wrote:
Thu, 01 Oct 2020 2:22 pm
Hello,

Thank you for this very informative thread and clear guidance. Could you please give me your opinion on my profile:

Gender: F
Age: 43
Marital status: Single
Nationality: Spain
Ethnicity: Caucasian
Diplomas: BS, MBA (Europe)
Industry: Tech company (Facebook)
Role: Program manager
Salary: 250k
Pass: EP, same company since 2014
Stay in Singapore: 11y combined since 2009 (had an EP, PEP and unemployed for ~6months in total in between jobs before the 2014 job and only ever left Singapore 1-2 weeks when unemployed to renew visa). I understand 2014 is a reset point for duration of stay for this application .

If I were to guesstimate I’d say very low to no chances. Cons are age, ethnicity and probably job isn’t specialised enough (that could change in the next 6 months towards cybersecurity specialisation). I think I missed my window and would have had better chances ~3-4y ago if I had planned it from the start, but keen to hear your thoughts on this self-assessment!
Chance is a bit low because of ethnicity,age. But I would say go ahead and apply once. sometimes surprising things happen.

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Re: PR approval chance in 2020

Post by TropicalExpat » Thu, 01 Oct 2020 7:49 pm

StuntCicak wrote:
Thu, 01 Oct 2020 2:22 pm
Hello,

Thank you for this very informative thread and clear guidance. Could you please give me your opinion on my profile:

Gender: F
Age: 43
Marital status: Single
Nationality: Spain
Ethnicity: Caucasian
Diplomas: BS, MBA (Europe)
Industry: Tech company (Facebook)
Role: Program manager
Salary: 250k
Pass: EP, same company since 2014
Stay in Singapore: 11y combined since 2009 (had an EP, PEP and unemployed for ~6months in total in between jobs before the 2014 job and only ever left Singapore 1-2 weeks when unemployed to renew visa). I understand 2014 is a reset point for duration of stay for this application .

If I were to guesstimate I’d say very low to no chances. Cons are age, ethnicity and probably job isn’t specialised enough (that could change in the next 6 months towards cybersecurity specialisation). I think I missed my window and would have had better chances ~3-4y ago if I had planned it from the start, but keen to hear your thoughts on this self-assessment!
I think you said it - if you applied a few years back your chances would have bene higher.
Your salary is decent, but ethnicity and age are against you.
You are on point there as well.

The problem with your ethnicity is that for all Singaporeans marrying caucasians, it's is their caucasian spouses that get priority in the already limited caucasian bucket.

I would apply if I were you. The application fee is not too high, but don't get your hopes up. If you get it, great. If not, don't worry.

Facebook also isn't popular with the gahmen, so that might also play in the decision ...

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Re: PR approval chance in 2020

Post by StuntCicak » Sat, 03 Oct 2020 9:25 am

Thank you TropicalExpat and SF for your replies, it’s very kind of you to take the time to respond. I shall give it a shot and will come back to update you in.. well, you know.. next year or something :)

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Re: PR approval chance in 2020

Post by not from sng » Sat, 03 Oct 2020 2:33 pm

I find this discussion fascinating. I am being considered for a job at one of the university's in sng as a senior hire (ie, tenured). I am a caucasian from north america and have been told I can get PR status after one year. Is this true? What would happen if my application is turned down? I know nothing about living in sng so any advice would be appreciated.

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Re: PR approval chance in 2020

Post by singaporeflyer » Sat, 03 Oct 2020 4:01 pm

not from sng wrote:
Sat, 03 Oct 2020 2:33 pm
I find this discussion fascinating. I am being considered for a job at one of the university's in sng as a senior hire (ie, tenured). I am a caucasian from north america and have been told I can get PR status after one year. Is this true? What would happen if my application is turned down? I know nothing about living in sng so any advice would be appreciated.
Not really true unless you are in bringing in some really really special expertise/skill. But it may be possible after 4-5 years. How old are you between? Are u coming alone or with family? What is your education, experience etc?

caucasian will be coming under the other quota for PR, which is less. But it is not impossible.

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Re: PR approval chance in 2020

Post by not from sng » Sat, 03 Oct 2020 4:49 pm

Surely standards for academic hires (ie, professors) are different from people in IT and banking? You can't compare an office worker to a university professor otherwise how would sng attract top scholars to move there? Can you point me to the website that gives the criteria for PR status?

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Re: PR approval chance in 2020

Post by ProvenPracticalFlexible » Sat, 03 Oct 2020 5:14 pm

Why would you or any other professor need a PR in a year to take a job here? Would that be the most important reason to take an academic job in Singapore, I doubt.

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Re: PR approval chance in 2020

Post by mtnut » Sat, 03 Oct 2020 5:17 pm

not from sng wrote:
Sat, 03 Oct 2020 4:49 pm
otherwise how would sng attract top scholars to move there?
With $$$. Keep in mind that PR is looking more for potential future citizens, rather than attracting foreign talent to SG. See below...
not from sng wrote:
Sat, 03 Oct 2020 4:49 pm
Can you point me to the website that gives the criteria for PR status?
https://www.ica.gov.sg/apply/PR/apply_PR_who

Also from this link: NOTE: ICA takes into account factors such as the individual's family ties to Singaporeans, economic contributions, qualifications, age, family profile and length of residency, to assess the applicant's ability to contribute to Singapore and integrate into our society, as well as his or her commitment to sinking roots.

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Re: PR approval chance in 2020

Post by tommyboy8 » Sat, 03 Oct 2020 6:14 pm

Chance me? Just recently submitted

Age: early 30s
Gender: M
Marital: Single
Nationality: Indonesian
Ethnicity: Chinese
Diplomas: MBA (top 3 US), went to local high school (sec sch+JC) here under SG govt scholarship way back if that matters
Industry: Tech investing (private equity)
Salary: 700k
Years in SG: 4.5 years (filed taxes 4 times), 8.5 if including time spent before

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Re: PR approval chance in 2020

Post by singaporeflyer » Sat, 03 Oct 2020 6:57 pm

tommyboy8 wrote:
Sat, 03 Oct 2020 6:14 pm
Chance me? Just recently submitted

Age: early 30s
Gender: M
Marital: Single
Nationality: Indonesian
Ethnicity: Chinese
Diplomas: MBA (top 3 US), went to local high school (sec sch+JC) here under SG govt scholarship way back if that matters
Industry: Tech investing (private equity)
Salary: 700k
Years in SG: 4.5 years (filed taxes 4 times), 8.5 if including time spent before
Wait. Time spent before does not count. Is your full work experience in SG or did you work elsewhere? If you worked somewhere and then came back to SG, your chance may not be so high. else it will be high.

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Re: PR approval chance in 2020

Post by tommyboy8 » Sat, 03 Oct 2020 7:07 pm

Only 4.5 years work experience in SG (4 tax cycles). Worked somewhere else outside SG prior to that before my MBA. Also left SG after JC and went to a US college. Thought the time spent before during sec sch / JC might be relevant so I'd mention it but seems that it doesn't get taken into consideration anyway

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Re: PR approval chance in 2020

Post by singaporeflyer » Sat, 03 Oct 2020 7:09 pm

tommyboy8 wrote:
Sat, 03 Oct 2020 7:07 pm
Only 4.5 years work experience in SG (4 tax cycles). Worked somewhere else outside SG prior to that before my MBA. Also left SG after JC and went to a US college. Thought the time spent before during sec sch / JC might be relevant so I'd mention it but seems that it doesn't get taken into consideration anyway
You may have around 25-30% chance. Because ICA knows from past that you may move elsewhere.

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Re: PR approval chance in 2020

Post by RachC » Sat, 03 Oct 2020 11:27 pm

Hi everyone,

Hoping for everyone's advice as I am quite sad. My PR application (rejection) came in the mail today after applying at the start of April. My details:

Now 38 y.o (was 37 at time of app)
Australian
Education: Phd Biomedical Engineering (plus other Eng degrees all from Australia
In Singapore 2+ years in medical device industry (Head of APAC role)
EP pass
Unmarried
No kids
Volunteering for local medical device startups (reason for applying for PR)

All advice is welcome
Thanks

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