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Need advice on citizenship

Post by justin123 » Sun, 01 Apr 2018 6:46 pm

Hello all, first time posting here.

I'm 21 year old, PR, been in Singapore since 5 and currently serving National Service, expect to ORD next year May.

I'm looking forward to applying for my citizenship as soon as I ORD(since the accelerated citizenship scheme is gone now). The process for application is 6 - 12 months according to the ICA website.

Here's my dilemma, as a student, I plan to continue my studies overseas in Australia. To do so, obviously I won't be in Singapore for an extended period of time while the application is getting processed. I've heard from a friend of mine that his citizenship application was rejected because of the fact that he was away from Singapore to study overseas while his application was getting processed.

I'm torn between 2 choices now, applying my university at the start of 2020, so I have some time for the application to get approved miraculously within the time frame of 7 months. OR, go overseas straightaway after ORD and apply for SC only after I return to Singapore with my degree persued(will this affect my chance of getting SC?).

Would really appreciate any advice given by you guys, because I searched everywhere on the internet but there are no threads that provides insight on people who apply for SC while they are abroad studying.

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Re: Need advice on citizenship

Post by singaporeflyer » Mon, 02 Apr 2018 10:54 am

justin123 wrote:Hello all, first time posting here.

I'm 21 year old, PR, been in Singapore since 5 and currently serving National Service, expect to ORD next year May.

I'm looking forward to applying for my citizenship as soon as I ORD(since the accelerated citizenship scheme is gone now). The process for application is 6 - 12 months according to the ICA website.

Here's my dilemma, as a student, I plan to continue my studies overseas in Australia. To do so, obviously I won't be in Singapore for an extended period of time while the application is getting processed. I've heard from a friend of mine that his citizenship application was rejected because of the fact that he was away from Singapore to study overseas while his application was getting processed.

I'm torn between 2 choices now, applying my university at the start of 2020, so I have some time for the application to get approved miraculously within the time frame of 7 months. OR, go overseas straightaway after ORD and apply for SC only after I return to Singapore with my degree persued(will this affect my chance of getting SC?).

Would really appreciate any advice given by you guys, because I searched everywhere on the internet but there are no threads that provides insight on people who apply for SC while they are abroad studying.

Finish your studies and then come back to SG. Stay here for 2-3 years and then apply for citizenship. If you are overseas for studies and apply for SG Czn at the same time, I doubt so if it will be approved.

But, there is a new category for SC Application

Are a PR studying* in Singapore; and have been residing in Singapore for more than 3 years (of which, at least one year as a PR); and have passed at least one national exam (i.e. PSLE, GCE ‘N’/‘O’/‘A’ levels), or are in the Integrated Programme (IP).

Why don't you apply NOW and wait for the result on SC?

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Re: Need advice on citizenship

Post by justin123 » Mon, 02 Apr 2018 1:56 pm

singaporeflyer wrote:
justin123 wrote:Hello all, first time posting here.

I'm 21 year old, PR, been in Singapore since 5 and currently serving National Service, expect to ORD next year May.

I'm looking forward to applying for my citizenship as soon as I ORD(since the accelerated citizenship scheme is gone now). The process for application is 6 - 12 months according to the ICA website.

Here's my dilemma, as a student, I plan to continue my studies overseas in Australia. To do so, obviously I won't be in Singapore for an extended period of time while the application is getting processed. I've heard from a friend of mine that his citizenship application was rejected because of the fact that he was away from Singapore to study overseas while his application was getting processed.

I'm torn between 2 choices now, applying my university at the start of 2020, so I have some time for the application to get approved miraculously within the time frame of 7 months. OR, go overseas straightaway after ORD and apply for SC only after I return to Singapore with my degree persued(will this affect my chance of getting SC?).

Would really appreciate any advice given by you guys, because I searched everywhere on the internet but there are no threads that provides insight on people who apply for SC while they are abroad studying.

Finish your studies and then come back to SG. Stay here for 2-3 years and then apply for citizenship. If you are overseas for studies and apply for SG Czn at the same time, I doubt so if it will be approved.

But, there is a new category for SC Application

Are a PR studying* in Singapore; and have been residing in Singapore for more than 3 years (of which, at least one year as a PR); and have passed at least one national exam (i.e. PSLE, GCE ‘N’/‘O’/‘A’ levels), or are in the Integrated Programme (IP).

Why don't you apply NOW and wait for the result on SC?
Hi thank you for the reply, as far as I’m aware I’m not able to apply for SC while I’m still in NS.

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Re: Need advice on citizenship

Post by singaporeflyer » Mon, 02 Apr 2018 2:29 pm

justin123 wrote:
singaporeflyer wrote:
justin123 wrote:Hello all, first time posting here.

I'm 21 year old, PR, been in Singapore since 5 and currently serving National Service, expect to ORD next year May.

I'm looking forward to applying for my citizenship as soon as I ORD(since the accelerated citizenship scheme is gone now). The process for application is 6 - 12 months according to the ICA website.

Here's my dilemma, as a student, I plan to continue my studies overseas in Australia. To do so, obviously I won't be in Singapore for an extended period of time while the application is getting processed. I've heard from a friend of mine that his citizenship application was rejected because of the fact that he was away from Singapore to study overseas while his application was getting processed.

I'm torn between 2 choices now, applying my university at the start of 2020, so I have some time for the application to get approved miraculously within the time frame of 7 months. OR, go overseas straightaway after ORD and apply for SC only after I return to Singapore with my degree persued(will this affect my chance of getting SC?).

Would really appreciate any advice given by you guys, because I searched everywhere on the internet but there are no threads that provides insight on people who apply for SC while they are abroad studying.

Finish your studies and then come back to SG. Stay here for 2-3 years and then apply for citizenship. If you are overseas for studies and apply for SG Czn at the same time, I doubt so if it will be approved.

But, there is a new category for SC Application

Are a PR studying* in Singapore; and have been residing in Singapore for more than 3 years (of which, at least one year as a PR); and have passed at least one national exam (i.e. PSLE, GCE ‘N’/‘O’/‘A’ levels), or are in the Integrated Programme (IP).

Why don't you apply NOW and wait for the result on SC?
Hi thank you for the reply, as far as I’m aware I’m not able to apply for SC while I’m still in NS.
Why don't you email ICA and ask? - ica_student_sc@ica.gov.sg

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Re: Need advice on citizenship

Post by mystic_river » Mon, 02 Apr 2018 3:49 pm

justin123 wrote:
singaporeflyer wrote:
justin123 wrote:Hello all, first time posting here.

I'm 21 year old, PR, been in Singapore since 5 and currently serving National Service, expect to ORD next year May.

I'm looking forward to applying for my citizenship as soon as I ORD(since the accelerated citizenship scheme is gone now). The process for application is 6 - 12 months according to the ICA website.

Here's my dilemma, as a student, I plan to continue my studies overseas in Australia. To do so, obviously I won't be in Singapore for an extended period of time while the application is getting processed. I've heard from a friend of mine that his citizenship application was rejected because of the fact that he was away from Singapore to study overseas while his application was getting processed.

I'm torn between 2 choices now, applying my university at the start of 2020, so I have some time for the application to get approved miraculously within the time frame of 7 months. OR, go overseas straightaway after ORD and apply for SC only after I return to Singapore with my degree persued(will this affect my chance of getting SC?).

Would really appreciate any advice given by you guys, because I searched everywhere on the internet but there are no threads that provides insight on people who apply for SC while they are abroad studying.

Finish your studies and then come back to SG. Stay here for 2-3 years and then apply for citizenship. If you are overseas for studies and apply for SG Czn at the same time, I doubt so if it will be approved.

But, there is a new category for SC Application

Are a PR studying* in Singapore; and have been residing in Singapore for more than 3 years (of which, at least one year as a PR); and have passed at least one national exam (i.e. PSLE, GCE ‘N’/‘O’/‘A’ levels), or are in the Integrated Programme (IP).

Why don't you apply NOW and wait for the result on SC?
Hi thank you for the reply, as far as I’m aware I’m not able to apply for SC while I’m still in NS.

You might be right. As you only have your 11B and not your NRIC, you might not be able to apply on the basis that you are currently not considered a civilian.

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Re: Need advice on citizenship

Post by jimmy.sanchez » Mon, 01 Jul 2019 1:20 am

I find it shocking that doing NS no longer guarantees citizenship.

I definitely would not have got citizenship without the accelerated program, given my performance during NS.

Wonder how do second gen PR justify doing NS nowadays? I cannot imagine having one's immigration status left in limbo for so long, just as one is getting old enough to be self aware of such things.

By the way, PR can cancel at any time right? When I was in NS vocational school, there was this PR who just decided he had enough and then cancelled PR and left to UK for university.

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Re: Need advice on citizenship

Post by singaporeflyer » Mon, 01 Jul 2019 12:31 pm

jimmy.sanchez wrote:
Mon, 01 Jul 2019 1:20 am
I find it shocking that doing NS no longer guarantees citizenship.

I definitely would not have got citizenship without the accelerated program, given my performance during NS.

Wonder how do second gen PR justify doing NS nowadays? I cannot imagine having one's immigration status left in limbo for so long, just as one is getting old enough to be self aware of such things.

By the way, PR can cancel at any time right? When I was in NS vocational school, there was this PR who just decided he had enough and then cancelled PR and left to UK for university.
Event though NS does not guarantee citizenship, if a PR has completed his NS, it is surely considered positive for the citizenship application. This is because they feel the applicant has contributed to Singapore is a strong and significant way.

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Re: Need advice on citizenship

Post by sundaymorningstaple » Mon, 01 Jul 2019 1:07 pm

The reason citizenship is no longer guaranteed is a valid one. At least from the P.O.V. of the government. From my view, I also have to agree with the government (although I don't like it either). Think, for a minute, from the gahments view. Here's a PR kid, doing his NS and is a total douche while in there, e.g., trouble maker, bad attitude, etc, etc. Why should the government deliberately give themselves another headache. They have enough strawberries of their own already without bringing in another bad egg that will likely become a guest of the government in Changi perhaps on the gahments nickel. I think they are right. Oh, my son-in-law is a former child PR. He did his NS, they offered him OCS, he took it and got his commission, then offered him citizenship. He took it. His parents, like me, have been here over 30 years and are still PRs (like me).

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