Without POEA/POLO/OWWA, you will have a tough time leaving Philippines..ppam02 wrote:Additional question:
4. Or should I try and fill up an Entry Visa (Form IMM 14A) and Letter of Introduction for Visa Application (Form V39A) so that I can enter Singapore holding only my IPA/Work Pass + Passport
or Apply for Long Term Visit Pass (LTVP), Form 14 or 14a?
You forget something. All the Philippine paper work is mandated by Philippines govt without which you can't leave Philippines. Or you will be held by immigration on your next return from Philippines! And all Filipinos working in Singapore have to go through all that, or face the wrath of your own govt. No way out mate.ppam02 wrote:Good day everyone,
I already spent 3 months (June-September 2016) in Singapore while finding a job. Having no luck, I returned to the Philippines in September.
December 2016, I was able to return to Singapore; after almost 28 days, still no good news from all my interviews.
January 3, 2017, had to exit in Thailand and spend 6 days there.
January 9, 2017, returned in Singapore but denied entry. The same day I returned to the Philippines.
3rd week of January I've had a Job offer among all the interviews I had attended. The offer is great and the benefits are good. They would even provide for my trip from PH to SG and 15 days accommodation.
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QUESTIONS:
1. Once the IPA/Employment Contract is given/sent to me by my employer, can I just use those as documents to show in the immigration in Manila and in Singapore?
2. Or, should I go to POEA in Ortigas and go through all those rigorous steps getting an OEC (Overseas Employment Certificate) (this includes Medical Exam, PDOS seminar, + required documents such as Employment Contract authenticated by Philippine Consulate/Embassy in Singapore, + signed letter with addendum where employer will repatriate my remains if ever something happens to me in SG) + other bureaucratic fees); should I have this document along with my IPA/Work pass when I return to SG straight from Manila
** Should I inform my employer with this authentication of Employment Contract in the Philippine embassy in SG? (Before they send the Employment Contract, or after?)
Would there be any instance they'll just select another person to do the job to avoid all these hassle paperwork on their part?
3. Go to HK as tourist for like, 3 days then head to SG bringing only the IPA/Work pass and other important stuff such as Passport without having the OEC document
Kindly advise and thanks in advance for your replies!
I thought I was qualified to apply for a Long Term Visit Pass since I am seeking for employment in Singapore. But as I tried to understand the qualifications further, I am not qualified since I am NOTecureilx wrote:Without POEA/POLO/OWWA, you will have a tough time leaving Philippines..ppam02 wrote:Additional question:
4. Or should I try and fill up an Entry Visa (Form IMM 14A) and Letter of Introduction for Visa Application (Form V39A) so that I can enter Singapore holding only my IPA/Work Pass + Passport
or Apply for Long Term Visit Pass (LTVP), Form 14 or 14a?
If you had denied entry, suggested recourse is Form IMM 14A.
And what gives you are eligible to apply for long term pass ?
--ecureilx wrote:ppam02 wrote:Good day everyone,
I already spent 3 months (June-September 2016) in Singapore while finding a job. Having no luck, I returned to the Philippines in September.
December 2016, I was able to return to Singapore; after almost 28 days, still no good news from all my interviews.
January 3, 2017, had to exit in Thailand and spend 6 days there.
January 9, 2017, returned in Singapore but denied entry. The same day I returned to the Philippines.
3rd week of January I've had a Job offer among all the interviews I had attended. The offer is great and the benefits are good. They would even provide for my trip from PH to SG and 15 days accommodation.
----
QUESTIONS:
1. Once the IPA/Employment Contract is given/sent to me by my employer, can I just use those as documents to show in the immigration in Manila and in Singapore?
2. Or, should I go to POEA in Ortigas and go through all those rigorous steps getting an OEC (Overseas Employment Certificate) (this includes Medical Exam, PDOS seminar, + required documents such as Employment Contract authenticated by Philippine Consulate/Embassy in Singapore, + signed letter with addendum where employer will repatriate my remains if ever something happens to me in SG) + other bureaucratic fees); should I have this document along with my IPA/Work pass when I return to SG straight from Manila
** Should I inform my employer with this authentication of Employment Contract in the Philippine embassy in SG? (Before they send the Employment Contract, or after?)
Would there be any instance they'll just select another person to do the job to avoid all these hassle paperwork on their part?
3. Go to HK as tourist for like, 3 days then head to SG bringing only the IPA/Work pass and other important stuff such as Passport without having the OEC document
Kindly advise and thanks in advance for your replies!
You forget something. All the Philippine paper work is mandated by Philippines govt without which you can't leave Philippines. Or you will be held by immigration on your next return from Philippines! And all Filipinos working in Singapore have to go through all that, or face the wrath of your own govt. No way out mate.
As far as Singapore is concerned, they only need to see your IPA.
ppam02 wrote: As you have stated above, Philippine paper work is mandated by PH government, thus, I do not have any choice but to work on the OEC (Overseas Employment Certificate).
you can fly into Singapore and then clear the OEC (Owwa/POEA/POLO etc) at the embassy in Singapore paying the fees required, after you start work in Singapore.ppam02 wrote: But what if my company doesn'twith a OEC, you don't need a return ticket to leave Philippinesppam02 wrote: want to work on the hassle on the documentations required to get an OEC (Example is Employment Contract authenticated by the Philippine Embassy in SG and my employer to sign an addendum to the contract -
- - Add the clause which requires my employer to provide the plane ticket back to the Philippines (even if I told them that I don’t need my employer to provide the return ticket because I am a permanent hire)
I mentioned before - there was a blog post, where A Filipino working as a head honcho for a large financial institution, with an annual salary of over 1 million $ excluding another million plus $ of incentives, had to get his contract amended as it didn't specifically mention about repatriation of mortal remains, even though his medical insurance etc was more than 10 million $. Go figure that outppam02 wrote:
- - Add the clause which requires my employer to repatriate my remains if anything happened to me while in SG
ppam02 wrote: Can I skip getting an OEC and fly to HK for a few days then go straight to Singapore bringing only my passport and IPA? And work on the OEC when I return to the Philippines or get an OEC Online?
Thanks!
Hi JuanDC!JuanDC wrote:Hi ppam02! I am also from the Philippines facing the same issue as you. May I know how did you proceed with this? Thanks!
so after the visit visa is approved, your EP will be approved?ppam02 wrote:Hi JuanDC!JuanDC wrote:Hi ppam02! I am also from the Philippines facing the same issue as you. May I know how did you proceed with this? Thanks!
My employer submitted an EPass application but MOM rejected it because of my refused entry. You can try to resolve this if you'll apply for a Visit Pass (Form14) with a local sponsor so that your 'refused entry issue' can be resolved both in ICA and MOM.
Once your visit pass is approved, and if your company is still keen on hiring you, you can tell your employer to re-appeal for your rejected EPass.
Hopefully, everything will be ok.
Update- I'm still waiting for the Visit Pass to be approved. Currently on 3rd week of waiting (visit pass process is typically 4-5weeks if i got it right)
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