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Re: Shop theft for 3rd time

Post by thatwildchild » Tue, 31 Jan 2017 5:44 pm

i was wondering if you are being caught. how many times do you need to report back to the IO ( under bail). My friend has been going back just to report for twice. And she is going back next month again. And normally how long will the case took?

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Re: Shop theft for 3rd time

Post by PNGMK » Tue, 31 Jan 2017 7:52 pm

FFS as long as it takes. Jesus christ on a stick; if you want legal advice get a goddamn lawyer for your sorry ass.

In summary you live in a country that operated under emergency rule (since the 60's) - a form of martial law. There is no due process. The cops can do whatever they want as long as they want.
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Re: Shop theft for 3rd time

Post by Max Headroom » Tue, 31 Jan 2017 8:23 pm

PNGMK, why don't you tell us what you really think?

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Re: Shop theft for 3rd time

Post by PNGMK » Tue, 31 Jan 2017 8:46 pm

Reality is there is no point complaining about the cops. Far better to work on a legal strategy. Personal experience leads me to believe you'd expect this many cop meetings:
1. Arrest/Detention
2. Bail Posting
3. Initial IO interview
4. IO thinks about it and comes up with 1 to infinity more questions and calls in OP
5. OP tells some truths and a bunch of lies.
6. Steps 4 to 5 repeat ad infinitum until either OP stops lying or becomes better at lying
7. IO prepares report for AGC (or drops case if IO feels it will not stand AGC scrutiny or involves children etc)
8. AGC responds with either agreement on charges or recommended way forward (more investigation, requesting statements from witnesses etc) for prosecution case
9. IO calls in OP sorry ass and advises her of 8 (i.e. charged, dropped or answer more questions - go back step 4 until IO drops or proceeds w case and bail).
10. Go to court. Sentenced.

don't do the crime unless you can afford to swing on the end of a rope.
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Re: Shop theft for 3rd time

Post by PNGMK » Tue, 31 Jan 2017 8:47 pm

Basically criminals are dogs and the cops know it.
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Re: Shop theft for 3rd time

Post by Selnur » Thu, 23 Feb 2017 4:33 pm

Hi All,
Update from my friend. She was given conditional warning on 21 Feb 2017. It wont be in her record for her offense. She is so relived and cant wait to apply for job. Thank you for your advice!!!


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Under the Merits Test, you must show that you have a good reason to bring or defend your case under the law[/quote]

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Re: Shop theft for 3rd time

Post by PNGMK » Thu, 23 Feb 2017 9:35 pm

Lucky lady. Tomorrow night we will set up a dead pool for her next offense.
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Re: Shop theft for 3rd time

Post by Jaynne » Fri, 26 Apr 2019 12:10 am

Hi there im new in here.. just to need some advice frm here.. recently my friend lost a cashcard n have a serial nos on it., if she make a report abt it to the police,will the police can trace dwn my fren cardcash if the cashcard had been use by other peoples? Will the police will go to the person house? How will the police knw that person had use my fren cashcard?

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Re: Shop theft for 3rd time

Post by sundaymorningstaple » Fri, 26 Apr 2019 2:31 pm

Your post actually sounds like you stole your friends Cash Card doesn't it. If you did not, for her information, they can trace the cash card withdrawals (anybody with a cash card can get a printout of the transactions which will include dates, times and where). The police can then go to those places and based on the time/dates, can request the CCTV footage to try to identify the user of the card. So, if it was you.........

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Re: Shop theft for 3rd time

Post by PNGMK » Sat, 27 Apr 2019 8:54 am

Jaynne wrote:Hi there im new in here.. just to need some advice frm here.. recently my friend lost a cashcard n have a serial nos on it., if she make a report abt it to the police,will the police can trace dwn my fren cardcash if the cashcard had been use by other peoples? Will the police will go to the person house? How will the police knw that person had use my fren cashcard?
While I would never agree that crime pays I'm pretty certain the cops threw your friends police report in the bin the minute she left the NPP.

Don't do it again.
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Re: Shop theft for 3rd time

Post by x9200 » Sat, 27 Apr 2019 11:14 am

I am under the impression the situation for the cash cards theft improved over last decade. I lost a number of them taken from my motorbike but not in recent years. But perhaps my parking areas changed. I no longer frequent SLS and such.

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Re: Shop theft for 3rd time

Post by PNGMK » Sun, 28 Apr 2019 10:13 am

x9200 wrote:I am under the impression the situation for the cash cards theft improved over last decade. I lost a number of them taken from my motorbike but not in recent years. But perhaps my parking areas changed. I no longer frequent SLS and such.
Yes perhaps you're right. Maybe they cause the crims more pain that I thought. I despise all and any form of stored currency tho.
I not lawyer/teacher/CPA.
You've been arrested? Law Society of Singapore can provide referrals.
You want an International School job? School website or http://www.ISS.edu
Your rugrat needs a School? Avoid for profit schools
You need Tax advice? Ask a CPA
You ran away without doing NS? Shame on you!

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