ah thanks!jamie9vardy wrote:No, it's not every 5 years. It's an annual publication
http://www.nptd.gov.sg/News
The past issues were published in September so we should expect to see the current edition in a month or two.
10k is a small No, ca 2% of the PR population. They are foreigners so their migration mobility is much higher than for the SC.dynoto wrote:actually the part of PR -> Citizen numbers that doesn't really seem add up.
according to statistics as per '15 ... on average
- 30k PRs and
- 20k Citizenship are granted per year
How does they maintain the number of 527.7k for PRs as there will always be 10k of surplus.
does that mean we have around 10k people had their PRs revoked / not renewed every year?
That's why we need you ... to think outside the boxBBCWatcher wrote:There's also mortality. Some PRs die each year.
Often inside the box (a casket).ecureilx wrote:That's why we need you ... to think outside the box
I though of it but I would expect more PRs to populate - have (more) offspring after becoming PR than SCs, both with similar mortality rates.BBCWatcher wrote:There's also mortality. Some PRs die each year.
BBCWatcher wrote:Often inside the box (a casket).ecureilx wrote:That's why we need you ... to think outside the box
According to what SMS previously wrote, he'll die as a PR. He's one future example, hopefully far in the future.
Well, when some guy can start of by saying stuff like - if you haven't committed any serious crime - for somebody asking about coming to Singapore...dynoto wrote:Wow thats rather morbid example ...
Haha
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The problem came up and the government has never denied that it is rebalancing the demographic percentages. The skewing happened during the run up to 2000 and the push to become an IT Hub (which, for all intents and purposes didn't really happen to the degree that had been wished). In the hellbent method that the government generally uses anytime they want to change directions, they opened up the floodgates for anybody who knew some coding skills because they thought the whole island would come to a standstill on the stroke of midnight on New Years Even 1999/2000. Most of the programmers (at a certain price point) were Indian Programmers and they flooded the market (and are still trying to do so, but they are not a cheap anymore). this pushed the traditional demographic for that ethnic grouping from 7% traditionally to something over 9% (around 9.3% I read in one article around 4 years ago). This was a direct hit to the Chinese majority 78% and the gahment didn't like that. They were not paying attention - now they are, to the detriment of any Subcon trying to come to Singapore to try their luck. LYK has always said that Immigration was the way to control the demographics. More Chinese than ever are being let in, but for a different reason. They are not trying to increase their percentage of the whole but to help to maintain it as the Chinese has the lowest TFR of all the ethnic groupings here. So they are 'naturally' losing ground because they like to have toy dogs to play with instead of their spouses.PNGMK wrote:This confirms what I've thought for awhile about the number of PR's in the 'other' category. It's a very tight quota. The entire document makes it clear that PR is a step to SC and that the entire effort is around maintaining a stable population with fixed race ratios.
Interesting snippets:
1. Immigration helps to balance the shrinking and ageing of our citizen population. The majority of our PRs are in the prime working ages of 25-49 years.
2. Similar to past years, we granted about 20,000 new citizens last year.
3. Permanent residence is an intermediate step through which suitable foreigners and spouses take up citizenship in Singapore. Since the tightening of the immigration framework in late 2009, we have taken in about 30,000 new PRs a year, to keep the PR population stable and to ensure a pool of suitable candidates for citizenship.
4. When I look at the old ratio and current ratio we can see "Others" and "Indian's" race weighting has come up from 2005 - hence I think we can expect Indian's and Others to have issues with PR approval for some time yet. The implied yearly ethnic quota's below are based on the original race ratios. Note that I state implied - the ICA has never said there is a quote but we know there is a granting cap or limit as per point 2 & 3 above. Remember that a main applicant could be bringing in 4 or more family members in total and that we know families are preferred - unfortunately the "other" category which is popular with friends who desire PR is extremely tight - maybe only 100 families in total!
Chinese Ratio Adj. Quota
Indian Ratio 2160
Chinese Ratio 22950
Other Ratio 330
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