Agree with all the PNGMK put forth plus I also see it slightly differently. I see several problems, some of which are suppositions, some anecdotal and some are just gut feelings on my part.iceinjan wrote:I was devastated to find out online that our PR application was rejected
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Myself (Principal Applicant)
- Age: 31
- Chinese race holding Canadian nationality; speak Mandarin & Cantonese
- Have been in Singapore for 2 years on EP
- Salary: $12K per month / Business Strategy Manager at MNC (medium size company, manufacturing industry)
- Degree: MBA + CPA
- I have been in my current job for 1 year at the time of application. Before this, I stayed 2 years for my previous job, of which 1 year was based in Singapore because of internal company transfer. Paid 1 year of tax in Singapore (2015 assessment not yet out at the time of application). Prior to that, studied and worked in Canada for 10+ years.
- No kids yet.
- Married for 1.5 years.
Husband (applied together as spouse)
- Age: 32
- Filipino nationality; speaks English and Tagalog
- Have been in Singapore for 2 years on EP
- Salary: $13K per month / Sales Director at Fortune 500 (Energy sector)
- Degrees: MBA, Bachelor of Engineering
- He has been in his current job for 4 years, of which 2 years in Singapore from internal company transfer. Paid 2 years of taxes
Thank you in advance for all your comments and help!!
sundaymorningstaple wrote:Agree with all the PNGMK put forth plus I also see it slightly differently. I see several problems, some of which are suppositions, some anecdotal and some are just gut feelings on my part.iceinjan wrote:I was devastated to find out online that our PR application was rejected
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Myself (Principal Applicant)
- Age: 31
- Chinese race holding Canadian nationality; speak Mandarin & Cantonese
- Have been in Singapore for 2 years on EP
- Salary: $12K per month / Business Strategy Manager at MNC (medium size company, manufacturing industry)
- Degree: MBA + CPA
- I have been in my current job for 1 year at the time of application. Before this, I stayed 2 years for my previous job, of which 1 year was based in Singapore because of internal company transfer. Paid 1 year of tax in Singapore (2015 assessment not yet out at the time of application). Prior to that, studied and worked in Canada for 10+ years.
- No kids yet.
- Married for 1.5 years.
Husband (applied together as spouse)
- Age: 32
- Filipino nationality; speaks English and Tagalog
- Have been in Singapore for 2 years on EP
- Salary: $13K per month / Sales Director at Fortune 500 (Energy sector)
- Degrees: MBA, Bachelor of Engineering
- He has been in his current job for 4 years, of which 2 years in Singapore from internal company transfer. Paid 2 years of taxes
Thank you in advance for all your comments and help!!
You are the favoured race and you are highly educated and well paid but you have been married only 1.5 years (for a joint application - but the application was correct in that it should be filed jointly.
Your husband, while also highly educated and well paid, is in a demographic that is, for lack of a better word, not high on the list demographically. I feel that even if it were not the reason for you applying as the main applicant, ICA may have seen it as a ploy to get him his PR on your coattails as it were. Filipinos are, for some unknown reason, not well liked in Singapore (I have my own thoughts as to why but I'll just keep them to myself as I have absolutely no problem with them - but I'm not Singaporean). By himself or him as the main applicant it would probably have been rejected as well, even though he's more qualified than you are. He actually ticks more of the boxes affirmative at this point with the exception of nationality.
Now, the real problems I see are gut feelings. If "I" were an ICA officer I would have to ask myself, "do you think that the main applicant will be a "Permanent" resident? She was transferred to Singapore by her MNC employer and stayed with them for only one year before jumping ship for another company. If they offer her a sizeable increment in the new company to do an internal transfer to another country, will she stay or go? After all she doesn't have any children in school so nothing stopping her. She's already shown that she has no company loyalty, so why would she have any long term loyality to Singapore either.
If "I" were the ICA officer, I would look at the husband, who ticks more boxes than the wife, and wonder why? Would he also be ready to jump ship or as he's stayed with his current employer for 4 years of which 2 have been here, will his company transfer him next year to another location or back to wherever he was before? Or did he already know how hard it is for Filipinos to gain PR so thought maybe he could ride in on the coattails of the favoured race who is a highly educated as well and also working for a MNC.
To me the whole thing is messy. Wait until both have three tax assessment under your belts and your EPs have been renewed. You will stand a better chance. Having a baby will up those chances even better as it will go a long way to proving that it's not a marriage of convenience (for the husband to get his PR) but I can understand that you may not be ready for a family just yet as well.
What I've said I know is rough and hard to stomach, but I'm just saying what I see between the lines. I'm sure I'm wrong and my apologies if I am. But if you have spent anytime on this forum reading you will know I'm a straight shooter.
sundaymorningstaple wrote:Was the rejection paragraph in the vein of "your application has been rejected but you are welcome to stay here on your current Employmept Pass as long as it's renewed"? Or something similar? If so, yeah, it's pretty much final. Although we have had one on here "who claimed he knew someone who managed to get it approved after around 6 tries. But 1st hand anecdotal evidence of that is pretty thin. Are you Canadian by birth or immigrant to Canada? From where?
sundaymorningstaple wrote:You didn't respond to my first question, but in answer to your question, PR is meant to be a stepping stone to SG Citizenship. It's possible, if they are aware that you are a naturalized Canadian, they may think you are like a lot of foreigners who try to collect PRs and or Multiple citizenships (although that is not possibe in Singapore, but multiple PR's is and there have been many who have abused the priviledge. They may well think that there seems to be many more reason not to give than to give, where there are others who seemly fit the bill of potential future citizens better. We have seen a number on here who were rejected with 350~400K salaries get rejected as well.
But as long as you have the stomach for it, I'd wait and apply after 3 tax assessments each and go from there (in the meantime always keep a plan b in the back of your mind as well. Good Luck.
Thats my work colleague from China , he applied every year and finally got PR 2 years ago.sundaymorningstaple wrote: Although we have had one on here "who claimed he knew someone who managed to get it approved after around 6 tries.
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