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Daddies & Mummies, please help!!

Post by brodvitlokk » Thu, 19 May 2016 6:08 am

Dear daddies and mummies expats, we need your voices too!

Lund University, Sweden, is conducting a Psychology Research on fathers with young children in Singapore as part of a Master's Thesis. The purpose of this study is to examine how fathers think and feel after having a child.

Daddies, if you are a father with child(ren) between 0 to 18 months of age and reside in Singapore, you are invited to participate in this study!

>> URL: https://goo.gl/660XHP << will not take longer than 15 mins

Singapore is a diverse country and YOUR VOICE TRULY MATTERS!
The findings of this research will be shared with Singapore's National Population and Talent Division (NPTD) to give insight on providing fathers in Singapore with more support. More information can be found on the link.

You can also stand a chance to win a Mothercare or Kiddy Palace voucher up to SGD$50 after participation!

Mummies, please help to forward to your hubby, your kind gesture is very much appreciated!

Thank you for your time!

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Post by x9200 » Thu, 19 May 2016 10:05 am

One of the better surveys posted on this board inclusive of all necessary elements, giving a proper background etc., but as we have this common habit of criticizing everything and specifically surveys, let me say this: IMHO there are at least two overlooked factors with significant impact on the results.

1) You made an assumption the father residing in Singapore lives with his family (including the child).
This is very often not the case, particularly true for very young children. The wife often leaves Singapore to deliver in her home country and stays there for a number of months. The father stays in SG and works.

2) You didn't provide any solid way of determining the father's emotional state as dependant on a variety of factors not associated with the fatherhood, For example, what if his mother just died? What if he has a cancer? What if he is about to be fired? What if he just lost heaps of money in the casino? The questions on work stress and depression episodes in the past do not really address it IMHO and all the emotions you ask about may be associated with the other factors and not necessarily with being a parent. Further to this, there could be some synergistics effects associated with the multiple factors, or the root cause of the emotions can be wrongly interpreted (I am not stressed because of being a father but because my family has not enough money).

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Post by PNGMK » Thu, 19 May 2016 10:19 am

The first question should be the children's age....
I not lawyer/teacher/CPA.
You've been arrested? Law Society of Singapore can provide referrals.
You want an International School job? School website or http://www.ISS.edu
Your rugrat needs a School? Avoid for profit schools
You need Tax advice? Ask a CPA
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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Thu, 19 May 2016 1:09 pm

PNGMK wrote:The first question should be the children's age....
Daddies, if you are a father with child(ren) between 0 to 18 months of age and reside in Singapore, you are invited to participate in this study
Am I missing something here?
SOME PEOPLE TRY TO TURN BACK THEIR ODOMETERS. NOT ME. I WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW WHY I LOOK THIS WAY. I'VE TRAVELED A LONG WAY, AND SOME OF THE ROADS WEREN'T PAVED. ~ Will Rogers

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Post by x9200 » Thu, 19 May 2016 3:56 pm

Actually, at the end of the survey there is a question narrowing down the age even more.

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Post by brodvitlokk » Thu, 19 May 2016 4:57 pm

x9200 wrote:One of the better surveys posted on this board inclusive of all necessary elements, giving a proper background etc., but as we have this common habit of criticizing everything and specifically surveys, let me say this: IMHO there are at least two overlooked factors with significant impact on the results.

1) You made an assumption the father residing in Singapore lives with his family (including the child).
This is very often not the case, particularly true for very young children. The wife often leaves Singapore to deliver in her home country and stays there for a number of months. The father stays in SG and works.

2) You didn't provide any solid way of determining the father's emotional state as dependant on a variety of factors not associated with the fatherhood, For example, what if his mother just died? What if he has a cancer? What if he is about to be fired? What if he just lost heaps of money in the casino? The questions on work stress and depression episodes in the past do not really address it IMHO and all the emotions you ask about may be associated with the other factors and not necessarily with being a parent. Further to this, there could be some synergistics effects associated with the multiple factors, or the root cause of the emotions can be wrongly interpreted (I am not stressed because of being a father but because my family has not enough money).
Wow I appreciate your view on this, thanks! I agree that there are limitations to this study. However, there are scientific reasons behind the questions chosen and these are empirical psychometric measurements. Of course, there are many reasons why a person can be depressed, but in a research, it's not necessarily about cause and effect. That's where data analysis comes in :wink:

As for (1), this study examines how fathers in Singapore feel and think after having a child. Although the main participant group would be Singaporeans, the inclusion of expats can also be helpful. Afterall, we are all in the same country and we should care for one another. Like you said, there may not be many expats who live with their family while working overseas. But oh well, if you don't try asking, you'll never know. There may not be many, but it doesn't mean there isn't any. :D By the way, it doesn't matter if the child isn't staying with the dad.

Hope this is helpful and thank you all for being so responsive! Do help to spread around as I'm not allowed to spam in the forum. Your kind gesture makes a difference! :in love:

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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Thu, 19 May 2016 9:10 pm

I'm not sure how much use the data you gain from this survey from member of this site are going to be. The predominant makeup of this board are all Expats and very few Locals except in the Plastic Surgery and Airline hostess threads. It's rare that any of them venture to the other forums on this board as they are here for a single purpose. You might want to try forums like SGforums or Hardwarezone as those are local forums for locals.
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Post by PNGMK » Fri, 20 May 2016 10:50 am

sundaymorningstaple wrote:
PNGMK wrote:The first question should be the children's age....
Daddies, if you are a father with child(ren) between 0 to 18 months of age and reside in Singapore, you are invited to participate in this study
Am I missing something here?
Yes I am an idiot as I did the whole form and then hit that mandatory question....
I not lawyer/teacher/CPA.
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You want an International School job? School website or http://www.ISS.edu
Your rugrat needs a School? Avoid for profit schools
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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Fri, 20 May 2016 4:20 pm

:oops!:
SOME PEOPLE TRY TO TURN BACK THEIR ODOMETERS. NOT ME. I WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW WHY I LOOK THIS WAY. I'VE TRAVELED A LONG WAY, AND SOME OF THE ROADS WEREN'T PAVED. ~ Will Rogers

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Post by brodvitlokk » Sat, 21 May 2016 1:44 am

PNGMK wrote:
sundaymorningstaple wrote:
PNGMK wrote:The first question should be the children's age....
Daddies, if you are a father with child(ren) between 0 to 18 months of age and reside in Singapore, you are invited to participate in this study
Am I missing something here?
Yes I am an idiot as I did the whole form and then hit that mandatory question....
Yeah one limitation about Google Form is that you can't edit the font format to make things easier to read. Thanks anyway! :)

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Post by x9200 » Sat, 21 May 2016 9:58 am

brodvitlokk wrote:Wow I appreciate your view on this, thanks! I agree that there are limitations to this study. However, there are scientific reasons behind the questions chosen and these are empirical psychometric measurements. Of course, there are many reasons why a person can be depressed, but in a research, it's not necessarily about cause and effect. That's where data analysis comes in :wink:

So what are the scientific reasons?


As for (1), this study examines how fathers in Singapore feel and think after having a child. Although the main participant group would be Singaporeans, the inclusion of expats can also be helpful.

From your introduction I actually though, it targeted the expats, if not, then not so bad.


Afterall, we are all in the same country and we should care for one another. Like you said, there may not be many expats who live with their family while working overseas. But oh well, if you don't try asking, you'll never know. There may not be many, but it doesn't mean there isn't any. :D By the way, it doesn't matter if the child isn't staying with the dad.

Why this doesn't matter? You see, I can understand you only want to determine whether a male holding a biological position of a father needs some help, similarly to, whether the State should support breast feeding mothers with whatever problems they face, but if this is the case, than this surveys has a lot of redundancy. The whole sections seems to focus on the emotions resulting from being the father including physical aspects. These are surely dependant on where the father lives.


Hope this is helpful and thank you all for being so responsive! Do help to spread around as I'm not allowed to spam in the forum. Your kind gesture makes a difference! :in love:

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Post by brodvitlokk » Sun, 29 May 2016 3:43 am

x9200 wrote:
brodvitlokk wrote:Wow I appreciate your view on this, thanks! I agree that there are limitations to this study. However, there are scientific reasons behind the questions chosen and these are empirical psychometric measurements. Of course, there are many reasons why a person can be depressed, but in a research, it's not necessarily about cause and effect. That's where data analysis comes in :wink:

So what are the scientific reasons?


As for (1), this study examines how fathers in Singapore feel and think after having a child. Although the main participant group would be Singaporeans, the inclusion of expats can also be helpful.

From your introduction I actually though, it targeted the expats, if not, then not so bad.


Afterall, we are all in the same country and we should care for one another. Like you said, there may not be many expats who live with their family while working overseas. But oh well, if you don't try asking, you'll never know. There may not be many, but it doesn't mean there isn't any. :D By the way, it doesn't matter if the child isn't staying with the dad.

Why this doesn't matter? You see, I can understand you only want to determine whether a male holding a biological position of a father needs some help, similarly to, whether the State should support breast feeding mothers with whatever problems they face, but if this is the case, than this surveys has a lot of redundancy. The whole sections seems to focus on the emotions resulting from being the father including physical aspects. These are surely dependant on where the father lives.


Hope this is helpful and thank you all for being so responsive! Do help to spread around as I'm not allowed to spam in the forum. Your kind gesture makes a difference! :in love:
I appreciate your thoughts given onto this survey. The research is still in process and to prevent biases, if you would like to, I can provide you with more information including published literature privately regarding your queries above. Feel free to let me know; same goes for anyone who would like to know about it. :wink:

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Post by x9200 » Wed, 01 Jun 2016 6:45 pm

You mean, the survey is still open for participation? No problem, please send it to me via PM. If you are not able, just post one more post here and you should have it enabled.
But instead of the literature, just a few sentences of explanation should be good enough. Thanks!

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Post by brodvitlokk » Wed, 15 Jun 2016 5:28 pm

Ups for awareness! :)

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