Sacking / resignation? Considering how the renal wards operate it's not fair for anyone at lower level to be fired and top ? That's a thought though ...Barnsley wrote:I cannot believe there hasnt been any resignations/sackings over any of these issues.
How to create trust when nobody is willing to take responsibility for anything.
A joke!!
Sacrilegious! That will create precedence for more accountability at the top, move along we have it all under control...ecureilx wrote:Sacking / resignation? Considering how the renal wards operate it's not fair for anyone at lower level to be fired and top ? That's a thought though ...Barnsley wrote:I cannot believe there hasnt been any resignations/sackings over any of these issues.
How to create trust when nobody is willing to take responsibility for anything.
A joke!!
Of course. They should be even rewarded for admitting something was wrong. Receptive to recommendations for fixes after destroying few lives? So extraordinary. Let them have on top of the reward the 14th and 15th salary bonuses!earthfriendly wrote:The existing team understands that there were lapses and receptive to recommendations for fixes. Let them continue to do their good work and learn from this.
This is not an ordinary job. For a blatant disregard they should be fired and prosecuted. If they failed because of a basic misconduct they should be fired. But they should not be fired in case something was beyond their control or has not fallen under reasonable/practice expectations.earthfriendly wrote:Unless there is blatant disregard and unprofessionalism involved. I don't see why people need to get fired.
From the chatter in volunteer groups, the direction is the staff were following procedure. Which in medical line, keeps changing due to discoveries and such.x9200 wrote:But they should not be fired in case something was beyond their control or has not fallen under reasonable/practice expectations..
The HCV transmission is almost always about blood so hard to make an excuse out of the fact that they worked with blood. So is the renal ward job.ecureilx wrote:From the chatter in volunteer groups, the direction is the staff were following procedure. Which in medical line, keeps changing due to discoveries and such.x9200 wrote:But they should not be fired in case something was beyond their control or has not fallen under reasonable/practice expectations..
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And working in Renal is dealing with blood and such multiple times a day.
I would not want to see and medical staff have their record tainted for following procedures.
earthfriendly wrote:It is super annoying whenever I read someone has to be fired or commit suicide after the incident. There is a lot of freedom (to explore different ways of doing things and do good) when people feel they are allowed to make choices and make mistakes. I don't see the point of firing or over-faulting them for an honest mistake. It is thru trial and error that let them refine their practices. Also, if you try to replace them with new blood, it is a whole new learning curve all over again.
I concur!!x9200 wrote:Of course. They should be even rewarded for admitting something was wrong. Receptive to recommendations for fixes after destroying few lives? So extraordinary. Let them have on top of the reward the 14th and 15th salary bonuses!earthfriendly wrote:The existing team understands that there were lapses and receptive to recommendations for fixes. Let them continue to do their good work and learn from this.
This is not an ordinary job. For a blatant disregard they should be fired and prosecuted. If they failed because of a basic misconduct they should be fired. But they should not be fired in case something was beyond their control or has not fallen under reasonable/practice expectations.earthfriendly wrote:Unless there is blatant disregard and unprofessionalism involved. I don't see why people need to get fired.
Note, we don't know what actually happened.
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