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Don't swear at Policeman / Policewoman

Postby PNGMK » Wed, 18 Mar 2015 8:19 pm

The penalty is $5000 and some time in the clink.

Apparently it's a deliberate ploy in some cases to provoke members of the public into this so they can be incarcerated.

This is from the mouth of a pro bono defender so it's pretty legit.
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Re: Don't swear at Policeman / Policewoman

Postby x9200 » Wed, 18 Mar 2015 9:03 pm

You mean like telling the policeman the F-word you or similar? If yes, then I would expect more than 5k.

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Re: Don't swear at Policeman / Policewoman

Postby nakatago » Thu, 19 Mar 2015 5:40 am

As a general life rule, I don't curse/swear at people who:
* enforce the law who also have the authority to incarcerate me
* are carrying weapons that can be used against me
* or generally has leverage against me in their favor

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Re: Don't swear at Policeman / Policewoman

Postby Barnsley » Thu, 19 Mar 2015 10:21 am

Is there a legal definition for "at"

What if you swear in the vicinity of said law enforcement officer, however you are swearing at yourself and not at the person tossing you into the back of the cop car?
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Re: Don't swear at Policeman / Policewoman

Postby nakatago » Thu, 19 Mar 2015 10:25 am

Barnsley wrote:Is there a legal definition for "at"

What if you swear in the vicinity of said law enforcement officer, however you are swearing at yourself and not at the person tossing you into the back of the cop car?


I reckon it has the same clarity as "outrage of modesty."

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Re: Don't swear at Policeman / Policewoman

Postby JR8 » Thu, 19 Mar 2015 10:26 am

nakatago wrote:As a general life rule, I don't curse/swear at people who:
* enforce the law who also have the authority to incarcerate me
* are carrying weapons that can be used against me
* or generally has leverage against me in their favor


Hehehe...
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Re: Don't swear at Policeman / Policewoman

Postby nakatago » Thu, 19 Mar 2015 10:29 am

JR8 wrote:
Hehehe...
It's counter-intuitive how you seem to have to bow and 'yes sir/no sir' to the civil servants in some countries.


That's because they're called bureaucrats in those countries.

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Re: Don't swear at Policeman / Policewoman

Postby the lynx » Thu, 19 Mar 2015 10:30 am

The funny thing is that in the older days, the uniform is well-respected and anyone who serves as a uniformed personnel would be viewed with high esteem.

Nowadays it is impossible not to snigger at them, especially when some of the ones you see on the front line are only 18 years old and behaving like younger kids.

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Re: Don't swear at Policeman / Policewoman

Postby x9200 » Thu, 19 Mar 2015 10:52 am

Barnsley wrote:Is there a legal definition for "at"

What if you swear in the vicinity of said law enforcement officer, however you are swearing at yourself and not at the person tossing you into the back of the cop car?

Swearing at a policeman is probably a special case, e.g. a verbal assault of a police officer performing his/her duties. All the other cases, not sure, but "outrage of modesty" sounds like the thing:
http://www.stuff.co.nz/travel/travel-tr ... Australian

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Re: Don't swear at Policeman / Policewoman

Postby the lynx » Thu, 19 Mar 2015 10:57 am

x9200 wrote:
Barnsley wrote:Is there a legal definition for "at"

What if you swear in the vicinity of said law enforcement officer, however you are swearing at yourself and not at the person tossing you into the back of the cop car?

Swearing at a policeman is probably a special case, e.g. a verbal assault of a police officer performing his/her duties. All the other cases, not sure, but "outrage of modesty" sounds like the thing:
http://www.stuff.co.nz/travel/travel-tr ... Australian


What happened to the first potty-mouthed guy who provoked the Aussie to do the same? :-/

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Re: Don't swear at Policeman / Policewoman

Postby Primrose Hill » Thu, 19 Mar 2015 11:17 am

JR8 wrote:
nakatago wrote:As a general life rule, I don't curse/swear at people who:
* enforce the law who also have the authority to incarcerate me
* are carrying weapons that can be used against me
* or generally has leverage against me in their favor


Hehehe...
It's counter-intuitive how you seem to have to bow and 'yes sir/no sir' to the civil servants in some countries.


That happened to me at Luton :mad: :mad: Immigration officer was not convinced that i speak fluent English nor a contributing member of society -aka working not claiming dole and I did not marry out of convienence :shock:

Immigration on Eurostar too from Paris to London 2years ago. Refused to allow me to use the EU immigration lane. Forcibly made me go to the outter Siberia :D

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Re: Don't swear at Policeman / Policewoman

Postby x9200 » Thu, 19 Mar 2015 11:26 am

the lynx wrote:
x9200 wrote:
Barnsley wrote:Is there a legal definition for "at"

What if you swear in the vicinity of said law enforcement officer, however you are swearing at yourself and not at the person tossing you into the back of the cop car?

Swearing at a policeman is probably a special case, e.g. a verbal assault of a police officer performing his/her duties. All the other cases, not sure, but "outrage of modesty" sounds like the thing:
http://www.stuff.co.nz/travel/travel-tr ... Australian


What happened to the first potty-mouthed guy who provoked the Aussie to do the same? :-/

Good question, but judging from the usual modus operandi of the local police, they put the right weight to right place so perhaps he just received a warning. Besides, I would also expect, the fact that all this was on board and the Aussie guy probably disobeyed to what the cabin crew told him at one point, was also an important factor. Hard to believe somebody gets canned just for swearing.


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