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Guardian: Arafat may have been poisoned tests show

Post by zzm9980 » Thu, 07 Nov 2013 8:39 am

Couldn't have happened to a nicer guy imo.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/n ... scientists
Suha Arafat said the evidence in the report suggested that her then healthy 75-year-old husband, who died in 2004 four weeks after he first fell ill following a meal, was almost certainly murdered by poisoning. She told al-Jazeera: "This is the crime of the century."
Surely it is! And f-ck all for all of the victims for who he had blood on his hands.

I do feel sorrow for the victims of the inevitable senseless violence this report will unleash in the middle east.

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Post by PNGMK » Thu, 07 Nov 2013 9:28 am

Smells like Mossad.

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Post by ecureilx » Thu, 07 Nov 2013 9:31 am

PNGMK wrote:Smells like Mossad.
a comedian friend of mine theorised ..

Choose one of the following:
1) Israel
2) US
3) Israel and US
4) US and Israel

And please don't include their internal factions who wanted to see him dead for softening his stance ..

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Post by x9200 » Thu, 07 Nov 2013 12:44 pm

It's more complicated than that.

After wikipedia:
Abnormally high concentrations of 210Po have been detected in July 2012 in clothes and personal belongings of the Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat, who died on 11 November 2004 of uncertain causes. However, the spokesman for the Institut de Radiophysique in Lausanne, Switzerland, where those items were analyzed, stressed that the "clinical symptoms described in Arafat's medical reports were not consistent with polonium-210 and that conclusions could not be drawn as to whether the Palestinian leader was poisoned or not", and that "the only way to confirm the findings would be to exhume Arafat's body to test it for polonium-210."[89] On 27 November 2012 Arafat's body was exhumed and samples were taken for separate analysis by experts from France, Switzerland and Russia.[90] On 12 October 2013, The Lancet published a peer-review of the group's finding that high levels of the element were found in Arafat's blood, urine, and in saliva stains on his clothes and toothbrush.[91] This is compared with the report from 15 October 2013 that the head of the Russian forensic laboratory investigating samples from the body of Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat had found no traces of radioactive polonium.[92]

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Post by zzm9980 » Thu, 07 Nov 2013 2:43 pm

x9200 wrote:It's more complicated than that.

After wikipedia:
Abnormally high concentrations of 210Po have been detected in July 2012 in clothes and personal belongings of the Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat, who died on 11 November 2004 of uncertain causes. However, the spokesman for the Institut de Radiophysique in Lausanne, Switzerland, where those items were analyzed, stressed that the "clinical symptoms described in Arafat's medical reports were not consistent with polonium-210 and that conclusions could not be drawn as to whether the Palestinian leader was poisoned or not", and that "the only way to confirm the findings would be to exhume Arafat's body to test it for polonium-210."[89] On 27 November 2012 Arafat's body was exhumed and samples were taken for separate analysis by experts from France, Switzerland and Russia.[90] On 12 October 2013, The Lancet published a peer-review of the group's finding that high levels of the element were found in Arafat's blood, urine, and in saliva stains on his clothes and toothbrush.[91] This is compared with the report from 15 October 2013 that the head of the Russian forensic laboratory investigating samples from the body of Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat had found no traces of radioactive polonium.[92]
For Squirrel's joke... The answer may be: "'E', the Russians contracted out by all of the above"
:)

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Post by kookaburrah » Thu, 07 Nov 2013 2:50 pm

It's delightful that the Russians actually bothered to let the world know. There might be a pocket of suckers tottering around on a turnip truck ready to pounce on the announcement.

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Post by x9200 » Thu, 07 Nov 2013 6:27 pm

It is probably too late for the Arafat case but the case of Litvinenko makes a very interesting reading in some points:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poisoning_ ... Litvinenko

Apparently nobody, including the KGB expected how easily Polonium could be traced. The whole chain of events put together just from what Litvinenko secreted with his sweat and his perpetrators carried out on their hands/cloths.

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Post by Chantikki » Thu, 07 Nov 2013 11:20 pm

I always thought Hamas killed him, but I guess it could have been any-one.

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Post by zzm9980 » Fri, 08 Nov 2013 10:39 am

Chantikki wrote:I always thought Hamas killed him, but I guess it could have been any-one.
Actually if you read x92's link, it sounds like the 210Po will be quite easy to trace and figure out where it came from. I'm guessing most of the residual 210Po will be long gone though.

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Post by x9200 » Wed, 04 Dec 2013 6:52 am

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-25205170
Yasser Arafat 'was not poisoned' - leaked French report

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Post by Strong Eagle » Wed, 04 Dec 2013 7:32 am

Aside from anything else, I just remember an old Johnny Carson joke which went something like:

What is the sound that is made when Dolly Parton takes off her bra?

Yasser Arafat!

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