ADSL is only standard telephone line from the provider's switch to your house. The 'provider's switch' can be a box with equipment in your building. The closer you are to this box, the better connection (and speeds) you get. This is why in the late 90s/early 00s you'd often see websites where you could enter your address and it would tell you how far the closest switch was. (At least you could do this in the US).JR8 wrote:If they're not state owned, then in many cases they're a monopoly provider, so they can behave more or less how they want.
But I'm curious, I thought ADSL is via a standard telephone line. How do they terminate that to a whole building?
I think they have to put that there, or the average who has long since been conditioned to take it in the @ss from these guys would immediately assume they're going to have to pay a termination fee.x9200 wrote:Generally nothing special but one point, a component of the offer, I like very much. It is "Waver of SingNet ADSL Premature Termination Charges."
Do they really have no shame offering such waver if this is them who are going to cease the services? Unbelievable.
I think the same. Still IMHO it should be and could be done a different way. It would be enough to include some short FAQ to the letter. Making an offer point from something what is a result of their de facto failure to delive is at best not elegant.zzm9980 wrote:I think they have to put that there, or the average who has long since been conditioned to take it in the @ss from these guys would immediately assume they're going to have to pay a termination fee.x9200 wrote:Generally nothing special but one point, a component of the offer, I like very much. It is "Waver of SingNet ADSL Premature Termination Charges."
Do they really have no shame offering such waver if this is them who are going to cease the services? Unbelievable.
Years ago, my then employer struck an exclusive deal with Singtel, for Singtel to resell our Taiwan CPE for ISDN .... and he was mighty happy about the dollars that were gonna flow in and we all were gonna be rich .. rich and rich .. etc. etc. ..x9200 wrote:I thought Singtel was more-less a reputable company so I am still surprised seeing this kind of tricks. Even if the agreement allows them to charge their customers for something what is the provider’s fault, this still does not make it look good. ..
The telecoms sector in particular is not an open, competitive market.x9200 wrote:In general I am overwhelmed by the level of BS served by different companies to their customers in this country. The rest of the world is not free from it but here even the biggest, well established ones do it. Their mistakes or strategies that serve mostly the company are always showed as a success and for the good care of the customers.
Matter of fact, years ago, when M1 was on CDMA, and Starhub was starting .. everybody was thrilled, and the thrill died pretty fast ..aster wrote:If this market opened up and a few new int'l players showed up then local telcos would be squealing at how quickly they'd have to up their game to even look remotely competitive. On top of that their products and services as well as general attitude would have to change literally overnight.
They do that for 3G to 4G plans. But honestly, in Singapore the 3G networks are so f-cking bad that you couldn't use 12GB in a month on 3G if you tried non stop. The connection isn't stable enough. I personally rather have 3GB of 4G that sort-of works. And btw, Singtel business 4G plans are still 12GB.ecureilx wrote: if she upgrades, her data bundle will drop from the current 12GB to 3 GB .. oh, you are gaining a lot with a new handset .. a new handset that may suck more data ?? Thanks, but no thanks !!!!
...and the rest of the world has also stopped charging for incoming calls as long as I can remember. Even third world countries don't do that any more. What's the rational behind charging for incoming calls anyway?!aster wrote:There is also the lack of advertising standards. I remember seeing those posters for prepaid cards with slogans like "free incoming calls," only to discover in the small print online that they're only free if you pay for them... to be free. Lol.
In SG aw incoming come from abroad right, tiny island in a big sea, so muss chadge, or how the gahmenr make plofit then ah?the lynx wrote: ...and the rest of the world has also stopped charging for incoming calls as long as I can remember. Even third world countries don't do that any more. What's the rational behind charging for incoming calls anyway?!
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