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Postby Tchronos » Thu, 21 Nov 2013 1:56 pm

Thank you everybody for your comments.
Noskich suggestion is probably the most realistic option I have.
I could land a job at top uni in Thailand (I have talk to the dean before) then work my way up to Singapore.l

Sadly, that not what my wife-to-be prefer.
She prefer me to be a househusband and look for job in Singapore.
There is still about 4-5 months before I have to make my final decision, I will give you an update when there is anything new.

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Postby noskich » Fri, 22 Nov 2013 6:44 am

Tchronos wrote:Thank you everybody for your comments.
Noskich suggestion is probably the most realistic option I have.
I could land a job at top uni in Thailand (I have talk to the dean before) then work my way up to Singapore.l

Sadly, that not what my wife-to-be prefer.
She prefer me to be a househusband and look for job in Singapore.
There is still about 4-5 months before I have to make my final decision, I will give you an update when there is anything new.


Well you just have to explain to her that it would be much better for both of you that you do something instead of staying at home whole day permanently. She might like it in the beginning, but after a while it becomes boring.

Just buy up lots of tickets when they are on sale from Tiger and Air Asia.
See also is it possible to collect miles and in that way get some tickets for free.

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Postby JR8 » Fri, 22 Nov 2013 9:35 am

I think you are perhaps rather cornered, for a number of reasons:

- In the eyes of a hirer, you essentially have no work experience
- It would take a material amount of time and effort to train you up, into any job (often employers, especially those replacing staff, want hires to come in and ‘hit the ground running’)
- You are probably over-qualified (academically) for just about any banking/finance job I can think of.
- When I used to interview candidates (here, in London, and in NY) for banking roles, I would not have invited you in. The reasons for that would be because you’re clearly extremely well educated, but it’s at a point where you ‘know everything, and yet nothing’. It reminds me of the Ivy League interns we had each year, MBA students from Harvard, Yale and so on who could not (or would not) work the photocopier, that all the rest of us had to. Just you’re maybe 3 degrees further down that path.
- If I hire an 16 or 18 year old, a person straight out of school, hungry to progress, there’s a decent chance he’ll make a go of it and be ok putting in the occasional 80-100hr week (like the rest of us). If I hire a 30 year old, married, already has a condo, no experience guy... where is the hunger? I speak from personal experience, as I was spat out of Wall Street at 31, in favour of (words etched in my memory) ‘a young thruster’ (by when I had 12+yrs exp, and was still doing 12hr days. But now looking back, I think you cannot underestimate the extreme commitment/hunger of new-hires. The rewards can be ‘ok’, but it is a very very, very, brutal game).
- A lot of mainstream people in banking are done and spat out by 30. This goes back to the hours required (as above), and that people get older, they get wealthier and... well, less ‘hungry’. It is really only the super-stars who have much hope in finance beyond 30/35.

As frank as it might sound, I mean this in the most constructive way.

Have you considered discussing this with a head-hunter/employment agent? I’d have thought it better to define plausible paths, than potentially trying to fit a square peg into a round hole. ‘My wife wants me to go into banking’ could well be the 180 degree wrong way of approaching this. I have no doubt that there is some path that would be ideal for you, it is just a case of trying to identify it.

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Postby Tchronos » Fri, 22 Nov 2013 11:34 am

Thank you JR8, I truly appropriate your comment.
Your comment is very constructive and those points are what i really concern about. I could not put it into better words myself.

At this point everything about my life is a bit uncertain compare to the past where I can clearly see where I am heading to 2-3 years ahead of time.

By the way, my wife-to-be just want me to be in Singapore and I am not aiming for banking job.
I am looking for any job that require research skill, as I get a kick out of doing research in general.
At this point, I do not have a clear goal of what job to get yet.
I will definitely talk to people in employment agency about plausible path in the future.


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