But they have everything to do with immigration law. MOM issued you a PEP with the visa, but it's all based on ICA's rules. They'll be the ones who will tell you what happens if you're here on a valid visa but your passport is expired.sergueis wrote:I think ICA has nothing to do with Employment Passes.
+1 .. and your pass is valid as long as your travel document is validzzm9980 wrote:But they have everything to do with immigration law. MOM issued you a PEP with the visa, but it's all based on ICA's rules. They'll be the ones who will tell you what happens if you're here on a valid visa but your passport is expired.sergueis wrote:I think ICA has nothing to do with Employment Passes.
Could you point me to the proper ICA web page stating just that but regarding PEP? It's totally different. PEP is issued for 5 years and it's just designed to last longer than the current travel document. And if I don't travel who cares about travel document?) Yeah, there was 4 month-long weekend... kind ofIf you get 12 months visa, for example, but passport expired in 6 months, the rest of the 6 months - you are an illegal immigrant, as you have NO TRAVEL DOCUMENT TO STAY HERE ..
not gonna argue with you .. but any form of residency/visa etc. have a foot note that says "AS LONG AS YOUR TRAVEL DOCUMENT IS VALID"sergueis wrote:It's totally different. PEP is issued for 5 years and it's just designed to last longer than the current travel document. And if I don't travel who cares about travel document?) Yeah, there was 4 month-long weekend... kind ofIf you get 12 months visa, for example, but passport expired in 6 months, the rest of the 6 months - you are an illegal immigrant, as you have NO TRAVEL DOCUMENT TO STAY HERE ..
Have just read my PEP carefully. There's no such a foot note.any form of residency/visa etc. have a foot note that says "AS LONG AS YOUR TRAVEL DOCUMENT IS VALID"
Correct.By your logic, say, PR holders also can forget about renewing passports, if they don't travel, am I right there ?
Right, and it also says you don't have to ensure your passport is valid ?? What you are reading means, you can get a 12 month visa with, say, 6 months validity remainign on the passport, but you must get the passport renewed before it expires .. not insist you don't need to ..sergueis wrote:Have just read my PEP carefully. There's no such a foot note.any form of residency/visa etc. have a foot note that says "AS LONG AS YOUR TRAVEL DOCUMENT IS VALID"
E.g., New Zealand immigration website says directly that NZ work visa can last longer than the current passport if there's your embassy in NZ which can renew the passport.
I see .... then I learn't something new ........ NOT ..sergueis wrote:Correct.By your logic, say, PR holders also can forget about renewing passports, if they don't travel, am I right there ?
I thought it is the other way around. If you are an EP/PEP holder you can enter/exit the country with your passport and without the EP/PEP card. There is an automated immigration channel for residents(including EP holders) where you need to scan your passport. I have seen this while entering the country. But not sure while leaving Singapore.sundaymorningstaple wrote:As an add on, you can use your PEP to enter and exit the country without your passport as long as your fingerprints are registered (which they will be if it's a laminated PEP card). However, as the PEP is machine readable, it will also instantly call up the ICAs records which will show your nationality and your foreign travel document's expiry date. If the date has expired, you will not be allowed back into the country on the PEP card without another valid travel document. You will have to get a new passport while outside of the country and come in on that new Passport and then go to ICA/MOM and have the PEP registered document.
I may butt in and say, from what I know .. that applies to almost ALL countries, except a couple of countries that allow you to stay on Residency permit without passport .. once you have entered ..AngMoG wrote:^^This.
Most countries (SG being no exception, to my knowledge) require foreigners to have a valid passport while staying or living in their country. ....
then again, if you leave SG to go to MY, for example, don't you need a passport to enter Malaysia ? and even if the OP goes back to his country, I am going on a limb to say this: his country maybe special to allow a citizen to enter minus a valid passport .. he needs to get an EC to cover his tracks .. though they way he fights, I think his country may not need any document at all ..sundaymorningstaple wrote:As an add on, you can use your PEP to enter and exit the country without your passport as long as your fingerprints are registered (which they will be if it's a laminated PEP card). However, as the PEP is machine readable, it will also instantly call up the ICAs records which will show your nationality and your foreign travel document's expiry date. If the date has expired, you will not be allowed back into the country on the PEP card without another valid travel document. You will have to get a new passport while outside of the country and come in on that new Passport and then go to ICA/MOM and have the PEP registered document.
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