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Gallup survey on Immigration

Postby Wd40 » Sun, 24 Mar 2013 4:54 pm

Interesting:

http://www.gallup.com/poll/161435/100-m ... -life.aspx

I would have loved to see where Singapore stands in both lists :P

Also shocking to see, how many people want to move to Saudi Arabia ahead of UAE and Qatar

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Sound dubious

Postby The Ref » Sun, 24 Mar 2013 5:29 pm

I cant believe there are only 10M Indians wanting to move to the USA :P

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Postby nakatago » Sun, 24 Mar 2013 5:38 pm

The Ref wrote:I cant believe there are only 10M Indians wanting to move to the USA :P


LOL.

Maybe the others want to go to Australia or Canada instead.

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Postby ecureilx » Mon, 25 Mar 2013 9:58 am

nakatago wrote:
The Ref wrote:I cant believe there are only 10M Indians wanting to move to the USA :P


LOL.

Maybe the others want to go to Australia or Canada instead.


Well, in reality, the urge to go US and Australia / Canada has gone down for many Indians .. or so me thinks ..

When my cousin completed his Degree in and Indian Engineering College, in mid 90's he said all of them wanted to go to US or were heading there ..

Last year, another relative of mine had his son complete his Course in IIT and his daughter in AIIMs, and both told that not many of their classmates want to go overseas ..

on the other hand, I see many saying they want to 'migrate' to Singapore :D and a lot many have migrated to Malaysia as well under MM2H !

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Postby Wd40 » Mon, 25 Mar 2013 10:37 am

Agree with Ecureilx.

Another thing.The key word is "migrate" here. Even those Indians who do have the desire to go to a developed country, want to earn a lot of dollars/pounds/dinars and then come back to their village build a big villa and enjoy life. Thats not "migration".

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Postby zzm9980 » Mon, 25 Mar 2013 4:42 pm

Wd40 wrote:The key word is "migrate" here. Even those Indians who do have the desire to go to a developed country, want to earn a lot of dollars/pounds/dinars and then come back to their village build a big villa and enjoy life. Thats not "migration".


I disagree completely. I checked two different dictionaries and Wikipedia, and they also all disagree with you. What you describe is definitely migration. The most thorough definition:

According to International Organization for Migration, man "no universally accepted definition for (migrant) exists. The term migrant was usually understood to cover all cases where the decision to migrate was taken freely by the individual concerned for reasons of "personal convenience" and without intervention of an external compelling factor; it therefore applied to persons, and family members, moving to another country or region to better their material or social conditions and improve the prospect for themselves or their family. The United Nations defines migrant as an individual who has resided in a foreign country for more than one year irrespective of the causes, voluntary or involuntary, and the means, regular or irregular, used to migrate. Under such a definition, those travelling for shorter periods as tourists and businesspersons would not be considered migrants. However, common usage includes certain kinds of shorter-term migrants, such as seasonal farm-workers who travel for short periods to work planting or harvesting farm products." [1] Also, human migration happened when the Paleo-Indians entered America.

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Postby rajagainstthemachine » Mon, 25 Mar 2013 9:22 pm

zzm9980 wrote:
Wd40 wrote:The key word is "migrate" here. Even those Indians who do have the desire to go to a developed country, want to earn a lot of dollars/pounds/dinars and then come back to their village build a big villa and enjoy life. Thats not "migration".


I disagree completely. I checked two different dictionaries and Wikipedia, and they also all disagree with you. What you describe is definitely migration. The most thorough definition:

According to International Organization for Migration, man "no universally accepted definition for (migrant) exists. The term migrant was usually understood to cover all cases where the decision to migrate was taken freely by the individual concerned for reasons of "personal convenience" and without intervention of an external compelling factor; it therefore applied to persons, and family members, moving to another country or region to better their material or social conditions and improve the prospect for themselves or their family. The United Nations defines migrant as an individual who has resided in a foreign country for more than one year irrespective of the causes, voluntary or involuntary, and the means, regular or irregular, used to migrate. Under such a definition, those travelling for shorter periods as tourists and businesspersons would not be considered migrants. However, common usage includes certain kinds of shorter-term migrants, such as seasonal farm-workers who travel for short periods to work planting or harvesting farm products." [1] Also, human migration happened when the Paleo-Indians entered America.


well in that case they are going to migrate back :lol:
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Postby Wd40 » Mon, 25 Mar 2013 9:28 pm

Well! If you click the link for the survey again and do a CTRL F and search for the word "Permanently" you will get 11 results in the same page.

So may be the accurate definition for "migrate" is different but in the context of the survey my definition stands!

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Postby zzm9980 » Tue, 26 Mar 2013 8:29 am

Wd40 wrote:Well! If you click the link for the survey again and do a CTRL F and search for the word "Permanently" you will get 11 results in the same page.

So may be the accurate definition for "migrate" is different but in the context of the survey my definition stands!


The survey specifically says "Permanently migrate", which is different than migrate, which is exactly what the Indians in your example are doing.


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