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Postby x9200 » Wed, 20 Feb 2013 10:59 am

@noskich, Ok, then sorry for earlier comment. You sounded pretty much like good few xenophobic trolls we have on this board from time to time. What is then your other post about on the expats ruling SG?

I think in principle you are right but there are some points that need to be taken care of.
This is from my perspective of course:

Education: it is to my best knowledge based on rota learning or similar approach. In spite of different people saying it's getting better in that respect I don't see it at least judging from the final product of the system (i.e. uni students). Children are not taught to freely explore subjects, natural curiosity is not encouraged, it is vastly a knowledge based approach with very limited encouragement to learn 'why' something is this or that way. It is all about 'what'.

Local kids are pretty spoiled. I really would not like my kid to behave like many of them. They are very noisy and often left in public places to roam pretty freely. I fail to see the courtesy and respect to the old people. They mostly show this to their family members. IMHO it is often some form of 'mechanical' filial piety thing. Most people around don't have this every day courtesy (as per Western standards), why the kids should have? I would like to have my kids to be courteous to other people, not only family. To let people out from the bus or elevator, not to rush to take an empty seat here or there, not to litter etc etc. I don't see local kids having such virtues.

Safety point is IMO the strongest one for having kids here.

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Wed, 20 Feb 2013 1:04 pm

And, as noted, in my earlier post, that is also what I was specifically referring to. The difference with my kids and the local kids are that mine aren't entirely a product of the local education system as I took a very active role in their educations as well (so much so the the principles & several teachers didn't like me very much). I tried to instill the other w's that go with the "what". Your children will be exactly what you allow them to be. If you depend on the local school system to entirely bring up your kids, they will be just a myopic as a local without the ability to question why (they frown on students asking questions). The teachers do not teach nor lecture but pontificate only. They expect the parent, tutors and other 3rd parties to actually do the teaching and answering of questions.

But, my kids were able to go to school without the fear of riots, drugs, and harm befalling them due to drug related activities like in lots of schools in western countries. When you live in countries like the US or Aus, distance is a prime concern of a parent and due to their occupations, are not always able to 'pick' the best area to live where they are close to a good/safe school. Here, all schools are safe and there aren't any schools located in ghetto as there are no ghettos either.

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Postby durain » Wed, 20 Feb 2013 7:54 pm

whatever happened to michael p. fay? bad seed? education? parents? friends? school?

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Postby JR8 » Wed, 20 Feb 2013 8:33 pm

durain wrote:whatever happened to michael p. fay? bad seed? education? parents? friends? school?


Teenagers go through a stage of rebelling, he just took it a little further than most do and made the mistake of doing it in SG.

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Postby x9200 » Wed, 20 Feb 2013 9:05 pm

sundaymorningstaple wrote:The difference with my kids and the local kids are that mine aren't entirely a product of the local education system as I took a very active role in their educations as well (so much so the the principles & several teachers didn't like me very much).

Curious if you would've managed to convince the principals to anything if you were Asian looking.

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Wed, 20 Feb 2013 9:37 pm

Interesting point, but I would imagine an ABC, BBC or CBC would have had a good impact as well because I believe it the carriage that we possess that matters most (attitude/bearing).

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Postby Brah » Wed, 20 Feb 2013 10:26 pm

sundaymorningstaple wrote:And, as noted, in my earlier post, that is also what I was specifically referring to. The difference with my kids and the local kids are that mine aren't entirely a product of the local education system as I took a very active role in their educations as well (so much so the the principles & several teachers didn't like me very much).

Your principles or the principal's principles?

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Wed, 20 Feb 2013 11:31 pm

I hate spellcheck. I get lots of the the as well! My typing has gone to crap and so has my eyesight!. :oops:

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Postby JR8 » Wed, 20 Feb 2013 11:39 pm

This one catches me out too.

I remember it by visualising me hugging my last head-master.

The headmaster (principal) is a pal (i.e. friend) of mine.

Works for me!

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Wed, 20 Feb 2013 11:46 pm

Oh, I know the diff. It's just that my brain types faster than my fingers and by the time the synapses reach the fingertips, they forgot what they were supposed to type exactly. So they apparently just approximate. :lol:

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Postby the lynx » Thu, 21 Feb 2013 1:15 pm

Stationary and stationery...

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Postby JR8 » Thu, 21 Feb 2013 6:19 pm

Oooooooh! I just hate it!!

I'm a numbers person, I couldn't give a fig about spelling, just 'show me the fackin' money'.

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Postby FnTank » Tue, 26 Feb 2013 5:19 pm

Hmm...even as modern local youths appear well-behaved in public, perhaps the "Keyboard Warrior" phenomenon is a result of repressed thoughts and feelings that still persist inside, rather than said youths having been successfully "molded" into peaceful, moral people, both inside and out..?

With that in mind, I personally believe that it would benefit youths to be able to explore as far as they wish to without overstepping certain boundaries(eg breaking laws, getting seriously hurt, etc), while active parental supervision/advice is given.

They'd then be able to come to terms with themselves, and be able to settle down into a stable, well-adjusted state, confident that their experiences have justified their eventual lifestyle choice.

I'd feel that is better than perhaps an over-restrictive upbringing, which may keep them physically safe, but there may be many questions left unanswered growing up, which may result in an awkward/unstable adulthood...

As a locally-educated youth through the 90s and 2000s, I was pushed by my parents to do well academically, and "challenge" to be among the best.

I didn't really become among the best, and didn't get tuition for much of my school life(until I started struggling badly with Maths in Secondary School and went to one recommended by schoolmates).

However, the workload and the constant comparison among relatives and schoolmates' parents made life quite stressful and mundane..

(Though I appreciate that my mother, despite not having finished school, took it upon herself to teach/supervise my work as far as she could, sometimes past midnight, rather than engage a tutor..)

Going to Poly(technic) felt like a breath of fresh air. It was about the happiest I felt throughout my times in school, and I enjoyed being able to learn what I wished to learn(foreign languages and electives on offer), and the friendly relationship with the lecturers and staff.

Then going to NS, I did feel that, with the free time and mind(not having to worry about grades for 2 years..!), I started to think more maturely/groundedly - What I wanted for myself in life(vs what others/society expects), the way of which I was going to live my life(happiness for oneself and others rather than money/status), spirituality(started looking into/studying religions, especially Buddhism), etc.

Hence based on personal experience I'd think, the sooner a child becomes aware of the viability of life outside outright academic success, and the more the school-life balance can be ensured, the better.

(Sorry for the long post...Very interested in the topic..!)

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Postby movingtospore » Wed, 27 Feb 2013 9:02 pm

sundaymorningstaple wrote:Ada is only one. Maybe noskich would like to thrown another 'one' into the mix Annabelle Chong, for instance. :lol:

Speaking generally that is.

Go to Zouk on any ladies night. Generally speaking that is. Or Zoukout. generally speaking that is.

noskich, can I have some of what you are smoking?


Mmm yes, if the kids are so great where did all those SPGs come from?

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Postby rajagainstthemachine » Wed, 27 Feb 2013 9:33 pm

noskich wrote:
x9200 wrote: Anyway, what is the reason of you posting all this? You have a reason?


My reason is that I genuinely believe Singapore would be a better place to raise a kid than Australia where I am now.


lol
How exactly is raising kids in Australia worser than raising kids in Singapore ?
based on those 2 video clips of a reality show you posted?
well very done, your reasoning beggars description.
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