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Post by Brah » Sun, 16 Dec 2012 2:07 am

In keeping with the Stuff I Used To Actually Dance To:

Joe Jackson - Friday (live 1980)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfArO24gSNw

Joe Jackson Band - Got The Time live
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNvRTwNzTr8

Featuring the great Graham Maby

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Post by JR8 » Sun, 16 Dec 2012 2:28 am

Squaring the circle.

The Next Page down on Jalan Sultan M. used to have a DJ in on (IIRC) Friday and Saturday nights. Bikey-dikey!!

Anyway, I had some friends over from NYC, who both had a very un-US, non-PC and a wildly impish sense of humour [Upper West Side Jews... maybe from the same mold as Woody Allen ... ???]. And I managed to pursuade her to go over to the buzz-cut DJ and request 'It's different for girls' by Jo Jackson. Oh how we laughed about that.

That pub was the scene of huge debauchery in general. Nick (Leeson) and Ches (his pit-guy) were regulars. One New Years Eve at the strike of 12 Ches and I were on the bar-top dancing, him in full yellow sowester and water-proofs (floor length rubber over-coat) when he poured a jug of swill (Tiger) down my neck. Don't even start on the SIA birds....

Crazy daze, but boy am I glad I lived them to the full... :)


p.s. Edit to add
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNzzK1dUtCI
The Joe Jackson Band - It's Different For Girls

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Post by JR8 » Sun, 16 Dec 2012 2:39 am

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hwE0slNd3Y
The Cars - Just What I Needed

Jo Jackson reminds me of The Cars, same era anyway.

Funny in retrospect. A conspiracy of the stoned, performing for a congregation of the oblivious.

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Post by JR8 » Sun, 16 Dec 2012 3:01 am

Alright.... here's one for you..

Tubeway Army - Gary Numan - Are Friends Electric
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uu6MDdxBork

The band do it live, rather than cover their own track. Nice, very professional.



p.s. Way OT but still, remember sitting next to him in a pub in Kensington. He really did have, er .... a kind of alian-aura about him. I loved his music but there was not a single thing I imagined I could say to him. Very odd, as I'm not exactly 'backwards in coming forwards'.

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Post by JR8 » Sun, 16 Dec 2012 4:46 am

Nine Inch Nails - Something I can never have (still)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEW8riKU_tE

What might be called a heavy-rock band [Brah, bite me ah ;))]

Their performance live was as 'powerful' as in this vid. You know as in, it's not often you leave a gig and feel you've just had a glimpse into another world.

Saw them.... donkeys years ago ('90-92?) in a club on Charing Cross Road. Amazing. At the end they destroyed their instruments and threw the remnants into the audience. Mad. I was in the mosh-pit and got a smashed keyboard in the head. Certainly memorable, like a brutal honesty [hehe].

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Post by JR8 » Sun, 16 Dec 2012 4:53 am

Tom Waits - Waltzing Matilda live 1977
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrkThaBWa5c


Think the guy must have chewed gravel for breakfast :) I remember listening to him on my little tranny after lights out at school (John Peel was big advocate), and imaging him as some awfully haggard old man... you know, to have a voice like that. Then I saw THIS vid of him many years later and I was agog, staggered. A debonair and charismatic young man with a voice like THAT!?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gwUtEEjZJ8
Tom Waits - The Piano Has Been Drinking - 1977
From the US comedy show 'Fernwood Tonight'.

Love it. You have to be a damned fine musician in order to persuasively mimic being a bad one.

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Post by JR8 » Sun, 16 Dec 2012 5:44 am

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KtBbyglq37E
Aretha Franklin - I say a little prayer ( Official song ) HQ version

Heavens what a voice.... I cannot imagine even trying to do her vocal gymnastics.

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Post by Brah » Sun, 16 Dec 2012 9:06 am

Same era, very different vibe, slightly different audience, The Cars appealed to mainstream USA where Joe Jackson was, at the time, just off to the side of post-Punk and New Wave.

We got so much of The Cars in the States on the radio and bars all the time that I'm numb to them, though they bring back memories.

I always go back to Shake It Up, which had one of the better guitar solos of the day: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eq-yoorI7lo#t=1m15s
JR8 wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hwE0slNd3Y
The Cars - Just What I Needed

Jo Jackson reminds me of The Cars, same era anyway.

Funny in retrospect. A conspiracy of the stoned, performing for a congregation of the oblivious.

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Post by Brah » Sun, 16 Dec 2012 1:04 pm

Coming from an early Electronic Music background of Tangerine Dream, Kraftwerk, J.M. Jarre, etc. and the like, I liked Numan originally when he came out, but became a huge fan when I, Assassin was released, mostly because it had the amazing Pino Palladino on it, back when heavily-chorused fretless basses were popular:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YW4abV75eEs

Bererker was ok, just not the same without Pino, there were a lot of Pino-wannabes at the time, after his work with Numan, Paul Young, and about a hundred others:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrkhNu8toe0

Gary is a strange, quirky, intelligent guy who has a lot of respectable musicians citing him as an influence, such as Trent Reznor of NiN:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qlUFKFHNIU


I've always considered NiN as one of the progenitors of Industrial Rock, rather than Heavy Rock, though they certainly are heavy.
JR8 wrote:Alright.... here's one for you..

Tubeway Army - Gary Numan - Are Friends Electric
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uu6MDdxBork

The band do it live, rather than cover their own track. Nice, very professional.



p.s. Way OT but still, remember sitting next to him in a pub in Kensington. He really did have, er .... a kind of alian-aura about him. I loved his music but there was not a single thing I imagined I could say to him. Very odd, as I'm not exactly 'backwards in coming forwards'.

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Post by JR8 » Mon, 17 Dec 2012 12:23 am

Brah = black:
Same era, very different vibe, slightly different audience, The Cars appealed to mainstream USA where Joe Jackson was, at the time, just off to the side of post-Punk and New Wave.
We got so much of The Cars in the States on the radio and bars all the time that I'm numb to them, though they bring back memories.
I always go back to Shake It Up, which had one of the better guitar solos of the day: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eq-yoorI7lo#t=1m15s

JR8 reply = blue:
To be honest I had a little difficulty sticking that one out, just a bit to cute-poppy for me. But yes agreed that is a nice guitar solo. Something like ‘Just what I needed’ had a bit more bite (new wave) to it.

Hearing the same song too much can get to be a drag... IIRC Blondie’s Heart of Glass was #1 for 12 weeks...I actually liked the band, but you just heard it relentlessly.



Coming from an early Electronic Music background of Tangerine Dream, Kraftwerk, J.M. Jarre, etc. and the like, I liked Numan originally when he came out, but became a huge fan when I, Assassin was released, mostly because it had the amazing Pino Palladino on it, back when heavily-chorused fretless basses were popular:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YW4abV75eEs

Wow, nice! I don’t know if I’ve heard that before. You know what that reminds me of, Duran Duran (plus IIRC of course John Taylor played/plays a fretless bass). Tangerine Dream... I've heard of them but have never owned any of their stuff. Could you please suggest a representative track? Kraftwerk, they did have their moments, as long as you were ok with the sort of Teutonic stiltedness of it. JMJ... for what ever reason I never liked him, wrong time wrong place? Wrong passport hehehe? Who knows now...


Bererker was ok, just not the same without Pino, there were a lot of Pino-wannabes at the time, after his work with Numan, Paul Young, and about a hundred others:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrkhNu8toe0

Nice. Haven’t heard that for donkey’s years :)

Gary is a strange, quirky, intelligent guy who has a lot of respectable musicians citing him as an influence, such as Trent Reznor of NiN:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qlUFKFHNIU

OMG! If you hadn’t have posted the link I would have bet pretty big against the suggestion of Numan playing with NIN. At one point he is head-banging (well, almost)... in my experience he always seemed to style himself as quite impassive or at the most slow-moving.

I've always considered NiN as one of the progenitors of Industrial Rock, rather than Heavy Rock, though they certainly are heavy.

Yes actually I think Industrial Rock about covers it well. But then hang on, what do you call Einsturzende Neubauten... Heavy Industrial Rock? ;)

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Post by Brah » Mon, 17 Dec 2012 1:59 am

I'll come back on those soon. Meanwhile, I woke up in the middle of the night and somehow felt the urge to dig this link up I found about 6 months ago:
http://www.telstar-archives.com/

It doesn't render correctly in any of the browsers I use but it's still workable.

In my arrogance I always thought this to be an American band, turns out the original was from a British band, but I think and arguably emulating an American style.

Good way to waste 30 minutes finding the version who do the song's chorus the best.

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Post by JR8 » Mon, 17 Dec 2012 3:15 am

Brah wrote:I'll come back on those soon.

At your leisure sir.... no rush at all :-)

Meanwhile, I woke up in the middle of the night and somehow felt the urge to dig this link up I found about 6 months ago:
http://www.telstar-archives.com/

Heavens. You've pitched a swerver there. Telstar used to be a record label that produced compilation albums, you know like 'Grandpa's 20 Xmas favourites' and so on. So I was thinking... ok, so how is this connected with Tangerine Dream who surely never recorded for Telstar :-D

But this is a publicly funded project to create an archive of versions of The Tornado's chart song 'Telstar'?... lol.... that's mad!


It doesn't render correctly in any of the browsers I use but it's still workable.

Works OK in Opera but I wouldn't call the site intuitive...

In my arrogance I always thought this to be an American band, turns out the original was from a British band, but I think and arguably emulating an American style.

Hey it's ok, I used to think Metallica were Swedish rather than American. No idea why... but what a big surprise I got when I found out how wrong I was. And yes I agree it certainly has an American style about it.

Good way to waste 30 minutes finding the version who do the song's chorus the best.

Opens beer/sits back... starts listening.

Thx!

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Post by JR8 » Mon, 17 Dec 2012 6:38 am

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Kgw77jxul0
TIFFANY-I THINK WE'RE ALONE live at TOTP

I was looking for the original video that this mall-rat released along with this song, but no luck I'm afraid.

I am happy to say I like this. No, I don't own it or play it at home but I respect her and the market she's working.

Great one to K-box... hence the respect. It's not TOO hard, but certainly not straight forward.... hence, challenging and yet fun :)

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Post by JR8 » Tue, 18 Dec 2012 2:55 am

The Tubes - White Punks - live 1982
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJfbO-iBkZI

Way OTT glam-rock, but very inventive and influential.

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Post by JR8 » Tue, 18 Dec 2012 3:04 am

nina hagen tv glotzer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LW6i3YQmONM

Wild euro-punk c. 1976/8. I remember trying to tattoo her band name/logo into my arm in Indian ink during a biology lesson.

Nina Hagen had a compelling story... escaping East Germany not being the least of it. Not some prodigy from Dussledorf or what ever, here was a person smuggled out at threat of death as a teenager from the east. Amazing really, but I do think you get a sense (looking above 'the show') that she was born of very hard experience.



p.s. Nak will ask I expect 'You saw what I did there?' The Cali rich kids singing that song, versus the eastern block refugee. hehehe... spotted o'ready ah....;

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