You did take the time to read with an open mind, correct? Nowhere did it mention the financial sector hiring. SME, Manfuacturing, other service industries. Everywhere BUT financials.Dooply wrote:Ironically a 'related' news article on the same page from 2nd october:
http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/ ... 20/1/.html
Spolier: "Singapore's job market looks set to stay strong in the final quarter of 2012, with two in three employers saying they'll be hiring, according to a survey by leading job portal, JobsCentral."
I did read the two articles. I was just pointing out the fact that both articles seem to be contradictory in nature. One is suggesting that companies would be cutting back on hiring in Q4 w whereas the other one claims that at least 66% of the companies will be hiring. Thus my point: take these articles with a pinch of salt.sundaymorningstaple wrote:You did take the time to read with an open mind, correct? Nowhere did it mention the financial sector hiring. SME, Manfuacturing, other service industries. Everywhere BUT financials.Dooply wrote:Ironically a 'related' news article on the same page from 2nd october:
http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/ ... 20/1/.html
Spolier: "Singapore's job market looks set to stay strong in the final quarter of 2012, with two in three employers saying they'll be hiring, according to a survey by leading job portal, JobsCentral."
VP`s at Barcap earn only 140K? as the old saying goes " Dont be fooled by the title - you`re really an AVP"publicduende wrote:Despite some reluctance, he agreed. The conditions are obviously to become a permanent (on a VP role) and accept the standard package, which unfortunately isn't that impressive (140K SGD). I am trying to negotiate that up to 160K and will probably be happy, as I already love the team and the project I am working on.
Yeah, I spoke to a recruitment consultant and the impression I got out of it is the Barclays titles are 1 level higher than the other banks(CS for eg) for the same role.aargon wrote:VP`s at Barcap earn only 140K? as the old saying goes " Dont be fooled by the title - you`re really an AVP"publicduende wrote:Despite some reluctance, he agreed. The conditions are obviously to become a permanent (on a VP role) and accept the standard package, which unfortunately isn't that impressive (140K SGD). I am trying to negotiate that up to 160K and will probably be happy, as I already love the team and the project I am working on.
It is much more messed up in CS (at least, in our department, other businesses within CS may be completely (!) different): it is not unusual to see 3-4 AVPs in a team (majority of team members), almost everybody who is below AVP is on vendor payroll here (with rare exceptions). Thus, if there are 50 people on the project, 1 of them is VP, 25-30 - AVPs, others - senior developers, few - simply developers (fresh grads).Callput wrote:Yeah, I spoke to a recruitment consultant and the impression I got out of it is the Barclays titles are 1 level higher than the other banks(CS for eg) for the same role.aargon wrote:VP`s at Barcap earn only 140K? as the old saying goes " Dont be fooled by the title - you`re really an AVP"publicduende wrote:Despite some reluctance, he agreed. The conditions are obviously to become a permanent (on a VP role) and accept the standard package, which unfortunately isn't that impressive (140K SGD). I am trying to negotiate that up to 160K and will probably be happy, as I already love the team and the project I am working on.
At Barclays a senior developer earning 90k gets AVP title whereas in CS the same role and salary would get the title of ENO. Below those salaries Barclays calls as analyst and CS doesn't even keep permanent staff at analyst level, they are all vendor payrolls.
An AVP in CS gets 120k minimum and typically 140k in the higher bands and usually AVPs lead teams.
I see thats a bit scary. During costing cutting time, many AVPs will get fired in that case.Sergei82 wrote:It is much more messed up in CS (at least, in our department, other businesses within CS may be completely (!) different): it is not unusual to see 3-4 AVPs in a team (majority of team members), almost everybody who is below AVP is on vendor payroll here (with rare exceptions). Thus, if there are 50 people on the project, 1 of them is VP, 25-30 - AVPs, others - senior developers, few - simply developers (fresh grads).Callput wrote:Yeah, I spoke to a recruitment consultant and the impression I got out of it is the Barclays titles are 1 level higher than the other banks(CS for eg) for the same role.aargon wrote: VP`s at Barcap earn only 140K? as the old saying goes " Dont be fooled by the title - you`re really an AVP"
At Barclays a senior developer earning 90k gets AVP title whereas in CS the same role and salary would get the title of ENO. Below those salaries Barclays calls as analyst and CS doesn't even keep permanent staff at analyst level, they are all vendor payrolls.
An AVP in CS gets 120k minimum and typically 140k in the higher bands and usually AVPs lead teams.
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