This is more like playing Russian Roulette to me. I will only advise based on the legality and the rules around it. Yes, technically, if you entered SG using US PP chances of getting caught is lesser.Microwave0 wrote:Hi,
Glad to have found this board and have read the entirety of this thread and the sticky written by Kraiik.
I left Sing at age 5, now 29 years old and became an American citizen at age 23. I had a Sing passport when I left the country but did not renew when it expired (prior to age 11). However, I never applied for an exit permit.
I'd like to return to Singapore to see my grandmother before too late, but it seems that I could not do so without being penalized, according to advice on this board and the general rule of law. It seems to me that, even if the gov't would allow me to enter the country without punishment, they would never actually say so.
Still, my older brother did report for service back in 2000 and he walked through the airport without being handcuffed. When he did report to Mindef they didn't even have him listed for duty! My stepfather, as a college counselor, has since spoken with a Singaporean student who says he left the country at an early age and reentered around age 19 without any trouble.
I guess my question is, what method of screening do they have at the airport? We hear about being arrested or fined/jailed, but this is, logically, the official government position. Is it possible that, unofficially, they never actually bother to keep track of the obliged? The piano man was only punished because of his high profile status - it was known that he was a former citizen and he was made to be a good example.
What of commonfolk, like the most of us? Do we fly under the radar? And would my American citizenship offer any protection? I'm interested in your opinions. Thanks
You are on the fence. Damn if you don't , damn if you notified them. Be careful with how you proceed as it will ring a lot of bellsMicrowave0 wrote:Grandma too old, forgetful and fragile for travel anymore.
Can't say there's no loyalty or soft-spot for the country. I did like being able to say I was Singaporean, up to an adult age. Whether that means I should have served can be debated, but that decision is past due.
Appreciate your understanding. Looks like I will have to contact the embassy or authorities if I truly want to know...or test Russian Roulette-style by entering the country blind (not likely).
Change maybe your name in your passport. The border gays are not able to find you anymore in the computer. When the ask you or this is your first time in Singapore, just say yes and as tourist, dress very very ang moh and you probably in. Don't know which border (JB or Airport) is easier to enter the country, maybe someone has better experience with it...Microwave0 wrote:Grandma too old, forgetful and fragile for travel anymore.
Can't say there's no loyalty or soft-spot for the country. I did like being able to say I was Singaporean, up to an adult age. Whether that means I should have served can be debated, but that decision is past due.
Appreciate your understanding. Looks like I will have to contact the embassy or authorities if I truly want to know...or test Russian Roulette-style by entering the country blind (not likely).
Not a good idea.DeGago wrote: Change maybe your name in your passport. The border gays are not able to find you anymore in the computer. When the ask you or this is your first time in Singapore, just say yes and as tourist, dress very very ang moh and you probably in. Don't know which border (JB or Airport) is easier to enter the country, maybe someone has better experience with it...
Sometimes I find it amazing that Singaporeans feel it is inconvenient to travel to JB. My old, forgetful and fragile neighbour travels 4 hours by air to exotic central american islands every year.Microwave0 wrote:Grandma too old, forgetful and fragile for travel anymore.
Can't say there's no loyalty or soft-spot for the country. I did like being able to say I was Singaporean, up to an adult age. Whether that means I should have served can be debated, but that decision is past due.
Appreciate your understanding. Looks like I will have to contact the embassy or authorities if I truly want to know...or test Russian Roulette-style by entering the country blind (not likely).
But when the officer see your passport with Born in "singapore" just like my son's passport, then their eye may wide open to check out the DB.DeGago wrote:Change maybe your name in your passport. The border gays are not able to find you anymore in the computer. When the ask you or this is your first time in Singapore, just say yes and as tourist, dress very very ang moh and you probably in. Don't know which border (JB or Airport) is easier to enter the country, maybe someone has better experience with it...Microwave0 wrote:Grandma too old, forgetful and fragile for travel anymore.
Can't say there's no loyalty or soft-spot for the country. I did like being able to say I was Singaporean, up to an adult age. Whether that means I should have served can be debated, but that decision is past due.
Appreciate your understanding. Looks like I will have to contact the embassy or authorities if I truly want to know...or test Russian Roulette-style by entering the country blind (not likely).
How can you expect to have him not serve NS when you all continue to enjoy the privilege of being SC's? If you all had genuinely migrated back then and changed nationalities that would be a different matter. As it stands, as SC's now; you are obliged to fulfill all your duties as citizens of this great and glorious little red dot.jasonamh wrote:Hi,
I would like to seek some advice from this forum with regards to applying NS deferment for my son pending renunciation of Singapore Citizenship at age of 21. Both myself and my wife are Singapore citizens. We left Singapore in 2005. My son is now 11 and will be 12 next year April.
I have researched extensively on the internet and was made aware that the requirement to defer by renunciation depends on whether the subject has enjoyed social-economic benefits of citizenship (e.g. applied for a Singapore identity card, studied in Singapore beyond the age of 11, or traveling on a Singapore passport). My son has never collected Singapore identity card and has never studied in Singapore. However, when we went back to Singapore last year, we made a mistake of renewing my son's passport. I was wondering if this constituent as an act of enjoying social-economic benefits, and if yes, is there anything we can do, e.g. surrender his Singapore passport?
Thanks in advance ..
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