PSST .. JTC is getting out of the HDB rental business .. and leases are not being renewed upon expiry .. unlike before .. and the units supply is reducing ..sundaymorningstaple wrote:JTC HDB are HDB flats owned by the Jurong Town Corporation and are leased out with restrictions. Most are out of the way and almost all have waiting lists to get into them. The program is known as SHiFT. HDB flats range from around 1500~1900/month inclusive of Service and Conservancy Charges. Currently there are no units available.
http://www.jtc.gov.sg/RealEstateSolutio ... ments.aspx
link none - years ago, I used to stay in JTC, Last year, when I went to get a new rental, was told the supply is cut. And the managing agents, EM Services, have told two of my friends renting under the EM Services rental scheme too that there will be no renewal.sundaymorningstaple wrote:Please post the link.
I'm female, and my partner is male, no kids. We aren't married at present, but we will be before we make the move, as 1) We want to anyway at some point 2) We were aware it'd make life easier for us given different nationalities. Right now we are just trying to get everything in order and getting informed - we are probably looking at making the move in about 2-3 years, once I've completed my uni work and my partner has more experience in the industry.zzm9980 wrote:Ok, I'd like to help, but I need to address the elephant in the room since you're post is gender-neutral and you refer to your male companion as "partner"... Are you female? If not, and you are a gay-couple, do a lot of searches on the forum for that topic.
Smaller elephant in the room: Are you married? If not, see above regarding DP. You'll have a slightly less difficult time with the LTVP as long as British High Council (embassy) are still endorsing letters to confirm a common law marriage. (Assuming you even meet that). I'd honestly recommend marriage before applying, it'll smooth everything out on the visa side of things.
Noted. The positions my partner would be applying for seem to offer about $3.8-$4k per month (Q1?), though we had to really dig to get figures as most jobs don't advertise a salary ("salary commensurate with qualifications"). He might (quite likely since he is due for promotion) also be a level higher by the time we actually seriously make moves to relocate which would put him round about $4.5k (P2?) as far as we can tell.Income levels determine everything in Singapore for foreigners: Which passes you get, how likely your DPs or LTVPs are to be approved, and later your chances for PR.
Don't even think about PR until you've been here long enough to have at least three tax statements unless you both get P1 passes.
Race is definitely factored, nothing in Singapore is race-blind. Your citizenship doesn't matter at all, just your race. Chinese Malaysians get favorable treatment to enhance their approval chances, not sure about Malay. Indians get negative treatment. Caucasians positive, but not quite as positive as a Chinese Malaysian.
This is where our life gets interesting. As a UK citizen, obviously I don't have any documents giving an "official" race - but for all intents and purposes I'm of mixed European ancestry (predominantly Roma, British and Spanish - there is some Javanese ancestry as well, but it's historical and not in immediate family)Sundaymorningstaple wrote:Permit wise, you get an Employment Pass like anybody else who comes to this island to work. The level of Pass will be dependent on your salary & qualifications and not your ethnicity or nationality.
This is not the same however, when it come to applying for PR. As noted, Malaysian Chinese are the flavour of the month with any Chinese that may be an ABC, BBC or CBC. PRC's on the other hand are not particularly welcome at the moment. You ideally will have been here for two years before applying for PR with three years being better (3 tax Singapore tax assessments are requested with the application) however, If both qualify (unofficially) and desired Chinese, you could probably run with 2 years.
Thanks for the heads up, I'll definitely look into that. Fingers crossed their projects won't fall foul of the budgetary axe being wielded back in London.The only thing I can offer that may be of assistance to your situation on employment. I know that the British Council pays English teachers very well. I know a local who makes almost enough that she would qualify for a P1. She also mentioned foreigners make even more, and they pay for relocation. Maybe you could investigate that.
House Hunters - it's the new HDB - the one-stop-shop for all your housing needsAnd on an episode of "House Hunters", some hispanic guy from the US got a really nice job with private condo paid for. That's all I can offer on this topic
Yep, there's a load of "soft"/emotional/personal issues involved there, and certainly it's aiming so far in the future as to not be a real issue for us now, but I just wanted to get an overall picture really - still early days for us. I was mainly thinking of any practical advantages, like the changes to healthcare provision and stuff like that - and I was thinking also long term that if everything pans out OK of ensuring a bit of security in retirement and so on. (I.e. not getting kicked out if your pension doesn't meet some arbitrary income level, or mess up some ethnic quota target or *insert random policy change here*)Sundaymorningstaple wrote:Is citizenship worth it? Pros & Cons. I don't think the Pros outweigh the Cons or vice versa. It would be up to the individuals. Obviously if you are ethnic Chinese, assimilation would be a lot easier and you would feel very much at home. For someone like me? Well, I've been here donkey's years and I still don't feel at home. Each to there own, I guess.
I did not JTC website keeps showing nothing available and wondered if this is what was happening. If this is the case it's a real shame as the SHiFT was a decent programme, though given the recent climate not entirely unexpected.ecureilx wrote:link none - years ago, I used to stay in JTC, Last year, when I went to get a new rental, was told the supply is cut. And the managing agents, EM Services, have told two of my friends renting under the EM Services rental scheme too that there will be no renewal.sundaymorningstaple wrote:Please post the link.
Corresponds with the JTC site now perpetually showing no units for lease, even during their normal release for rental periods - 1st of the month and 15th of the month ...
Understood it as the post election effect of natives going vocal on the rental 'special' scheme for foreigners which was construed as subsidised rental (and it was cheaper than market rate, that's for sure .. ) and also natives noting the space in Toa Payoh and AMK and seeing it as space that should be given to locals under the HDB direct rental for low income earners.
LOL! I imagine gahmen just loves that comparisonzzm9980 wrote:Don't worry about documentation on your race. They'll just look at you. They can be pragmatic like that Caucasian will be an asset. I'm not sure on Malay. From what I gather, Malay gets a slight benefit. I sometimes detect hints of a small Singaporean guilt complex, kind of like Native Americans and the former slave trade can elicit in the US. I'm likely wrong though.
JTC apartments were spread all over, from Woodlands to Tampines to Jurong West to Bukit Merah and all over .. not any specific area, except the Toa Payoh blocks which were upgrading blocks so two whole blocks were rented through Shift / EM Service.Aiyah! wrote:So the JTC flats are/were in Toa Payoh and AMK? That's a pretty sweet location for the price. I was imagining Jurong West / Timbuktu.
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