The situation right now, I know. However, I can't go back to Indonesia as I have to serve 3 years bond under tuition grant agreement. we are fresh graduates with no working experience. Many of my foreign friends have started to work under EP. That's why I am shocked when mine was rejected on the date of application. my parents have spent so much money on me. and when I have found a job, I cant work.sundaymorningstaple wrote:No, the reason, in all probability is the fact that you have no experience. Therefore you do not have anything that sets you apart or makes you more valuable that a local fresh graduate. Therefore MOM says hire a local. Until you get experience you are going to have a bit of a problem trying to get a job here in Singapore now. You might have been told the opposite before or when you first started school here, but times have changed. Now, EPEC's are being rejected out of hand even though the school is a listed one on MOM's list. No more are graduates being offered LPR while still in school in hopes that they will sink roots here. Those days are done and dusted. Will be a long, long time before we see that again, if ever.
You are exactly right. In fact, I've been here through 5 recessions and expats left in droves in all of them. But huge numbers of us stayed through it all, thick & thin. I just passed 29 years here. BUT. There is a big difference now. With the advent of FB and the other social media, LYK is no longer able to call the shots. That means, now the various agencies need to learn to dance instead of just marching jackbooted like they used to do at the command of leeky and ride roughshod over all. Now, they have been bloodied and know the bloodletting can get much worse. So, I beg to disagree up to a point. Yes, there will be a return, but no, it's never going to be lackadaisical let 'em all in like in yesteryear. Now, you are going to have to be bringing something to the table.wkwoods wrote:SMS, you and I have been here long enough to know that during the last major recession after the Asian Crisis, the foreigners all fled Singapore, PR or not. It will come again.....
If the appeal is rejected, you are, frankly, out of luck. At least with that employer. You would need to find another employer and try with them. If they are refused an EP for you then you better figure out what you are going to do in Indonesia, as there probably isn't a future here for you. As far as the Bond goes, I'm not sure how that works. But if the company cannot justify to MOM why then need to hire a inexperienced fresh foreign graduate then they are not going to get an approval. However, often, MOM wants to see how serious the employer is about hiring the individual and will reject out of hand and then grant on appeal. So, just keep your fingers crossed.kaizoku9873 wrote:
Currently, my company's HR is going to appeal. If the appeal is rejected again, can I still re-appeal? what are the chances of successful appeal after being rejected? Please give me advice. I am confused now. Thanks in advanced.
Thank you for your quick reply. Could this be on company case? I have a few Indonesian and Malaysian friends who have many working experience like me, but granted EP within a week. Now they are working with EP. In term of qualifications, I think we have almost the same. So, I just do not understand why. I am trying to figure out what else could cause the rejection.sundaymorningstaple wrote:If the appeal is rejected, you are, frankly, out of luck. At least with that employer. You would need to find another employer and try with them. If they are refused an EP for you then you better figure out what you are going to do in Indonesia, as there probably isn't a future here for you. As far as the Bond goes, I'm not sure how that works. But if the company cannot justify to MOM why then need to hire a inexperienced fresh foreign graduate then they are not going to get an approval. However, often, MOM wants to see how serious the employer is about hiring the individual and will reject out of hand and then grant on appeal. So, just keep your fingers crossed.kaizoku9873 wrote:
Currently, my company's HR is going to appeal. If the appeal is rejected again, can I still re-appeal? what are the chances of successful appeal after being rejected? Please give me advice. I am confused now. Thanks in advanced.
Yes. I have two bonds concurrently from my poly and university grant. That's why I am really confused as I am stuck and do not know what to do if the appeal is rejected. I am planning to settle down in Singapore. Now I can just hope for the best outcome.andrew22 wrote:The fact that they would deny your EP app when they have bonded you for three years is...a real head scratcher, to say the least...pretty incoherent policy. Not to mention, as far as I recall, aren't you required to search for a job in SG for at least 6 months/possibly up to one year before you are allowed to exit/dissolve the bond based on inability to find work in SG?kaizoku9873 wrote:
If the govt. sponsored your studies and bonded you then I am pretty sure you are supposed to get a PR IPA that gets converted to PR when you find a job. With a PR IPA you have better changes of getting a job......kaizoku9873 wrote: Yes. I have two bonds concurrently from my poly and university grant. That's why I am really confused as I am stuck and do not know what to do if the appeal is rejected. I am planning to settle down in Singapore. Now I can just hope for the best outcome.
We are in the same blue! I am Indonesian chinese poly graduate with 3-yr bond to serve. I have been here for 5yrs. My application was rejected at the same day and the company I'm going to work for is not small though. When I asked MOM, they told me to ask HR (too bad its saturday already).kaizoku9873 wrote:Thanks for the reply. Company's HR told me there is no reason. My ethnicity is Chinese. It got rejected on the same day as the application date. I am currently on student pass and expiring in about 3 weeks time. Based on the qualification i have, i should be able to get the EP. Could it mismatch of details. I read on one of the thread in this forum, the EP was rejected 15 min after it had been submitted. My student pass adress is different from the address i use in the EP application. Could this be the problem? The application was submitted through EP Online.
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