And anyway, it wasn't me who called your art appreciation sh1t.Eric from the Netherlands wrote:Even worse than racism I find the total destruction of art.
May 10 1933 in nazi Germany.
Books being burnt, art being destructed. The holocaust, one of history's black pages.
On this forum today a piece of art of a young long ago artist was being branded as a piece of shit. May not look that serious one would think. But in fact it is the total denial of the most personal expression of a person, a denial of the essence of life, which is creation, the most individual expression of one's soul.
You may not be attracted to it, so be it. But branding art as shit is probably the most destructive act one could imagine.
Freedom of expression, sure. You can and should say what you like or not like. But never ever deny the artist's unique emotion and expression.
Respect it. Enjoy it.
Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder.
Judging other's expression is a crime.
Calling it shit is just inhumane.
It was about the painting "die Umarmung" of Egon Schiele. Expression of the deepest emotions of humans, the embrace, vulnerable and insecure, but passionate, wanting and longing.
Seen as a piece of shit....
Egon Schiele, an artist at the turn of the 19th to the 20th century (1890 - 1918), his life full of despair because of death around him. His beloved father, who died at the age of 54, after the whole family saw him deterioting and dying in a state of madness.
Egon' comments: "I don't know whether there is anyone else at all who remembers my noble father with such sadness. I don't know who is able to understand why I visit those places where my father used to be and where I can feel the pain... . I believe in the immortality of all creatures ... why do I paint graves and many similar things? because this continues to live in me."
The young Schiele moved to Vienna, painted and was arrested, being charged with displaying "pornographic materials", his paintings.
Probably even worse, the story of him and his wife Edith:
In 1915 he had met two middleclass girls who lived opposite his studio. Edith and Adéle harms were the daughters of a master locksmith. Schiele was attracted to both of them, but eventually fixed his sights on Edith.
He and Edith moved to a new and grander house and studio. Their pleasure in it was brief. On 19 October 1918 Edith, who was pregnant, fell ill with Spanish influenza, then sweeping Europe. On 28 October she died. Schiele, who seems never to have written her a real love-letter, and who in the midst of her illness wrote his mother a very cool letter to say that she would probably not survive, was devastated by the loss. Almost immediately he came down with the same sickness, and died on 31 October, three days after his wife." It is said because of grief for the loss of his beloved wife.
Now that is shit, isn't it?
Now if you call that shit, there must be a lot of shit in your own head, don't you think?
Better get it away and take a better look, it might enrich your life?
Eric
Read again:sundaymorningstaple wrote:I sorry Eric, next time I'll be sure to put the "quotes" where they belong. That way you won't forgot who wrote what.
Don't pity yourself for being blamed all the time, k?sundaymorningstaple wrote:The young Schiele moved to Vienna, painted and was arrested, being charged with displaying "pornographic materials", his paintings.
Kinda says it all don't it.
Bubbs, I agreed with him as well, and at no time did I refer to his taste in art as 'shit' or the art piece itself. Yes, I did refer to it as 'pornographic' as was also done by people before me which he referred to himself. If you look at early texts of The Story of "O" the artwork is not dissimiler. Is the work pornographic even by todays standards? Yes, Is it still considered readable? Yes. I find it that way as well, it's just my taste doesn't run in that direction. He has every right to his taste as do I. I did not nor do not disparage him or his tastes, I only agreed with somebody else in as much as I find it more pornographic in style. Oh, by the way, I believe that is a style just like impressionist, modernist, cubist, advant guarde, bohemian, or rubenesque or hyrogliphic (sp!) or even manga, or anime. Each to their own I say.Bubbles wrote:Absolutely agree with every word of Eric's and no, not sucking up to him, just agree, that's all.
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