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Re: Irresponsible Pet shop

Post by abbby » Wed, 31 Jul 2024 10:38 am

@NYY1 I've always wondered this too...vets always recommending to spay, but I've never spayed my dogs. Sometimes I wonder is it just to make more money?
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Re: Irresponsible Pet shop

Post by Lisafuller » Wed, 31 Jul 2024 2:13 pm

NYY1 wrote:
Tue, 30 Jul 2024 6:32 am
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Tue, 30 Jul 2024 2:26 am
When we got our puppy we were told it was best to neuter before two years of age as that is when problems begin to emerge. He is a male dog so the loss of libido was much appreciated.
I think one to two years of age (roughly speaking) is the recommended window. Some issues can arise if the procedure is done before the dog has finished growing (for example, a female will almost certainly need to go through at least one heat cycle).

I think what is unknown is how the absence of these organs/hormones affects the dog going forward (many pets will still live happy lives and whatnot). My feeling is that the procedures are recommended as much for population control and behaviour as they are for health reasons.

The procedure is also easier for a male dog; two swings of the knife plus a band-aid, and after a day or two he's back in business. For females, it's a bit more intensive. On the other hand, you have the ongoing heat cycle and risk of pregnancy.

Like many things, there are tradeoffs, and I'm not sure which route is best.
Population control is definitely a concern. I also think it depends on where you've gotten your pet. Those adopted from SPCA and like organizations come spayed. Those purchased from pet shops don't as they tend to be younger, giving owners the option to choose for themselves.

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Re: Irresponsible Pet shop

Post by Lisafuller » Wed, 31 Jul 2024 2:14 pm

abbby wrote:
Wed, 31 Jul 2024 10:38 am
@NYY1 I've always wondered this too...vets always recommending to spay, but I've never spayed my dogs. Sometimes I wonder is it just to make more money?
Doubt it. Though it's interesting that you say you've never spayed your dogs, pretty much every dog I've come across in Singapore has been spayed (only speaking for male dogs as you can't really tell with females).

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Re: Irresponsible Pet shop

Post by Addadude » Wed, 31 Jul 2024 3:04 pm

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You don't have to have them spayed? Other than for contractual reasons I believe there's also a health component (many health conditions originate from the keeping of the reproductive organs) in addition to behavioral issues that often arise (aggressiveness in males, for example).
I think this also applies to certain people, many of them politicians.
"Both politicians and nappies need to be changed regularly, and for the same reasons."

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Re: Irresponsible Pet shop

Post by Lisafuller » Wed, 31 Jul 2024 11:25 pm

Unfortunately inclined to agree with you...

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Re: Irresponsible Pet shop

Post by malcontent » Wed, 31 Jul 2024 11:39 pm

Lisafuller wrote:
Wed, 31 Jul 2024 11:25 pm
Unfortunately inclined to agree with you...
Let me guess… Kamala Harris? 8-)
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Re: Irresponsible Pet shop

Post by Lisafuller » Thu, 01 Aug 2024 1:22 pm

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malcontent wrote:
Wed, 31 Jul 2024 11:39 pm
Lisafuller wrote:
Wed, 31 Jul 2024 11:25 pm
Unfortunately inclined to agree with you...
Let me guess… Kamala Harris? 8-)
Mal...

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Re: Irresponsible Pet shop

Post by Strong Eagle » Fri, 02 Aug 2024 1:26 am

malcontent wrote:
Wed, 31 Jul 2024 11:39 pm
Lisafuller wrote:
Wed, 31 Jul 2024 11:25 pm
Unfortunately inclined to agree with you...
Let me guess… Kamala Harris? 8-)
No... definitely neutering services, starting at the neck for the other party's so called "candidate", the Manchurian candidate.

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Re: Irresponsible Pet shop

Post by MOCHS » Fri, 20 Sep 2024 7:42 am

The ignorance against sterilisation is so worrying here.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8471467/

https://veterinarypartner.vin.com/defau ... d=10002077

If you don’t sterilise, there’s a much higher risk of reproductive cancers. I’ve followed animal rescue groups on social media over the years and saw post-spay photos of friable (fragile) uteruses from stray cat moms having almost died in their pregnancies ‘cos their bodies couldn’t support continuous pregnancies for so many years. They were lucky they got rescued. A lot of the time they die during labour.

There was one mama cat I followed that died of mammary cancer despite chemo.

Kittens and puppies born to feral parents don’t live long. Even if they do survive, they don’t live long lives compared to indoor pets. A very rare few can live so long on their own.

If you care for your pets, don’t put them through such pain. Sterilisation is much cheaper than chemo/radiation/therapy. Their physiologies are different from humans.

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Re: Irresponsible Pet shop

Post by Rappress » Tue, 25 Mar 2025 12:43 am

MOCHS wrote:
Fri, 20 Sep 2024 7:42 am
The ignorance against sterilisation is so worrying here.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8471467/

https://veterinarypartner.vin.com/defau ... d=10002077

If you don’t sterilise, there’s a much higher risk of reproductive cancers. I’ve followed animal rescue groups on social media over the years and saw post-spay photos of friable (fragile) uteruses from stray cat moms having almost died in their pregnancies ‘cos their bodies couldn’t support continuous pregnancies for so many years. They were lucky they got rescued. A lot of the time they die during labour.

There was one mama cat I followed that died of mammary cancer despite chemo.

Kittens and puppies born to feral parents don’t live long. Even if they do survive, they don’t live long lives compared to indoor pets. A very rare few can live so long on their own.

If you care for your pets, don’t put them through such pain. Sterilisation is much cheaper than chemo/radiation/therapy. Their physiologies are different from humans.

I’m actually working on a pet care app that helps owners track sterilization and health appointments. It’s amazing how technology, like pet care apps, can make such a big difference in ensuring pets lead healthier lives. You can check out more about pet care app development here
I totally agree with you on this. I’ve volunteered with a few animal rescue groups, and I’ve seen firsthand how neglecting sterilization leads to heartbreaking situations. There was one stray dog I helped rescue a few years ago. She was pregnant with her second litter, and she had already been through so much—her body was so worn out, you could see the toll years of constant pregnancies had taken on her. Luckily, she made it through, but her pups didn’t survive. The whole experience made me realize just how important sterilization is, not only for preventing the suffering of animals but also for their long-term health. It’s shocking how many people still don’t understand the risks of not spaying or neutering their pets. Like you mentioned, the link to reproductive cancers is real, and the stories of stray animals suffering in silence due to repeated pregnancies are devastating. It’s heartbreaking to think of the life some of these animals face, and the worst part is that most of this can be prevented with a simple procedure that costs far less than treating advanced cancer or other diseases. In fact, many pet owners aren’t aware that sterilization can actually save them money in the long run. The cost of surgery is far less than the potential medical bills for cancer treatments, not to mention the emotional toll it can take on both the pet and the owner. I know from personal experience that sterilization is one of the most important things we can do as responsible pet owners to give our furry friends a better, healthier life.

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