PR approval chance in 2020

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Re: PR approval chance in 2020

Post by sundaymorningstaple » Fri, 25 Jun 2021 2:54 am

Being from the East Coast of the US, I hear you and do not deny that fact either. In fact at least once a year somewhere in the US greater metropolitan areas you will always hear about a brother or father who kills his daughter/sister because she WAS assimilating and more with a non-Indian boy. But on the other side of the coin is those that settle in small towns and actually become a valued member of the communities (mostly doctors I admit and a rather large number of them are pediatricians. Small towns don't lend themselves to the formation of segregated communities like the larger cities do. Again, like the conversation occasionally about racism, the fact is that people do not understand that preferring to live with birds of a feather is NOT racism but preference. But having said that, to refuse to associate with others is a fault. Sadly, most politicians here haven't actually lived in the west, so their thought processes are wrong. But, they have the power, we don't.
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Re: PR approval chance in 2020

Post by Ignorant1 » Fri, 25 Jun 2021 9:02 am

smoulder wrote:
Fri, 25 Jun 2021 1:32 am
Funny thing SMS, is that I personally know of quite a few Indians born in India who have spent a great deal of time in western countries and become naturalized but haven't really assimilated. They hang out with fellow Indians, they marry from their own community, they are stick rigidly to their caste system and if you met them, you'd think they are fresh off the boat. But it's amusing if they are thought of as being assimilated by virtue of being naturalized in the west. No offense meant to the gentleman in this post :)
Yup. I agree with you. Issue is that there is lot of generalisation /pre conceived notions . There are 1.3 billion Indians , I find difficult to find one difficulty mould.
I understand Singapore can pick and chose who they want eventually to be part of the Pr or citizen pool but I wonder how individuals who have already changed their nationality / Pr status once isn’t a red flag . This is not indian thing . I know couple of cases from China having Canada Pr too .
I say this because I know of a friend who has been rejected for citizenship twice after marrying local Chinese, buying a hdb and reproducing . ( he is citizen now )

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Re: PR approval chance in 2020

Post by mystic_river » Fri, 25 Jun 2021 4:09 pm

sundaymorningstaple wrote:
Fri, 25 Jun 2021 12:45 am
Don't shoot me, I'm just the messenger. But. Here in Singapore, the PAP looks at Indians in two different ways. Those like Min. Shan & Vivian Balakrishnan are jokingly referred, by locals, as docile or tame Indians who will do the governments bidding if you catch my drift. They are not likely to make waves like some (like MP Pritam) and so forth. I'm guessing that they look at Indians who have been naturalized in 1st world or Developed countries, have already been tamed are likely good candidates. I know this is wrong, but when you happen to be married for almost 4 decades to an Indian you tend to hear things in family gatherings that the average non-Indian would ever hear. I also think the assimilation factor also plays a lot as well, as if they have been naturalized in a western country they would have almost had to learn to assimilate. Something that isn't done very much here. So, yeah, I reckon those who are coming from the west do have a subtle advantage.
Agree with this. Also, don't forget that Indians that have been naturalized in a western country are a lot less likely to use PR/SC as a stepping stone/abuse the system

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Re: PR approval chance in 2020

Post by sundaymorningstaple » Sat, 26 Jun 2021 1:15 am

Yeah, back around the 2000 era that was the big thing, getting PR here as a stepping stone as Singapore had such a good relationship with the West back then. And Singapore was more stringent in some aspects than the US. If they are coming back this way it's because they want to get closer to home without going home and having the ability to maintain a rather good lifestyle here with only a short flight to India destinations. You are spot on.
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Re: PR approval chance in 2020

Post by Techgal_786123 » Sat, 10 Jul 2021 12:43 pm

@here I have applied for PR 3 months ago. Now I have invested some money in a local business here in singapore. Do I have to inform ICA about my investment or it’s not required. Any suggestion would be appreciated. 😊

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Re: PR approval chance in 2020

Post by singaporeflyer » Sat, 10 Jul 2021 1:28 pm

Techgal_786123 wrote:
Sat, 10 Jul 2021 12:43 pm
@here I have applied for PR 3 months ago. Now I have invested some money in a local business here in singapore. Do I have to inform ICA about my investment or it’s not required. Any suggestion would be appreciated. 😊
What kind of investment? depends on the value also.

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Re: PR approval chance in 2020

Post by Myasis Dragon » Sat, 10 Jul 2021 11:20 pm

Techgal_786123 wrote:
Sat, 10 Jul 2021 12:43 pm
@here I have applied for PR 3 months ago. Now I have invested some money in a local business here in singapore. Do I have to inform ICA about my investment or it’s not required. Any suggestion would be appreciated. 😊
When I first applied for PR in 2006 (US, white male), it was rejected. I appealed, submitting financial statements for the company I had founded, showing that we were profitable, kept our money in Singapore banks, and hired Singaporean staff and support people. I was approved upon appeal. FWIW, my business partner and I put $200,000 into the company via equity.

My view is that "invested some money" isn't going to make a bit of difference for you. You can tell ICA, in fact you should, but here is your problem.
  1. You're not an active business owner or manager, you are passive. Thus, your investment is no different than putting your money into any of a dozen different investment vehicles... real estate, other businesses, the stock market. Your investment is there to make you money.
  2. You don't mention what kind of business or how it is organized. Is it a sole proprietorship? Are you related in any way? How did you choose this business? What are the terms of your investment? Do you see that an ICA officer might say, "WTF is this?" If you're going to submit you need clarity in how and why you have made this investment.
  3. Singapore has a program where you can "buy" PR through the Global Investor Program (GIP). But, you need a couple of million dollars. It's for heavy hitters, and even then, if all you have is money, Singapore probably won't let you in... they want business skills as well.
Company formation and growth is an important thing in Singapore. If you can play upon that, then maybe it will help. At the same time, many scammers use company formation to try to get into Singapore so the gahmen is always on the lookout for bogus setups.

Good luck.

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Re: PR approval chance in 2020

Post by Techgal_786123 » Sun, 11 Jul 2021 11:30 am

@singaporeflyer,

Thanks for your response. Much appreciated.. :) Investment is 15k SGD in a singapore based fast food brand with 5% of partnership. Is it worth notifying ICA ?

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Re: PR approval chance in 2020

Post by singaporeflyer » Sun, 11 Jul 2021 11:34 am

Techgal_786123 wrote:
Sun, 11 Jul 2021 11:30 am
@singaporeflyer,

Thanks for your response. Much appreciated.. :) Investment is 15k SGD in a singapore based fast food brand with 5% of partnership. Is it worth notifying ICA ?
You can inform them, but dont keep high hopes on this factor alone.

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Re: PR approval chance in 2020

Post by Techgal_786123 » Sun, 11 Jul 2021 11:43 am

Thank you ! Noted.

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Re: PR approval chance in 2020

Post by Techgal_786123 » Sun, 11 Jul 2021 11:55 am

@Myasis Dragon
Thank you for your inputs. Much appreciated!
Basically I found this business online. The owners were looking for investors for their new branches across Singapore. I have done the investment of course for profit but at the same time this will create job opportunities for locals as well. It’s a Singapore based fast food joint. As I mentioned in my previous post , I will be partner of 5%.

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Re: PR approval chance in 2020

Post by smoulder » Sun, 11 Jul 2021 12:23 pm

Techgal_786123 wrote:
Sun, 11 Jul 2021 11:55 am
@Myasis Dragon
Thank you for your inputs. Much appreciated!
Basically I found this business online. The owners were looking for investors for their new branches across Singapore. I have done the investment of course for profit but at the same time this will create job opportunities for locals as well. It’s a Singapore based fast food joint. As I mentioned in my previous post , I will be partner of 5%.
Out of curiosity, where do you find something like that online?

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Re: PR approval chance in 2020

Post by Techgal_786123 » Sun, 11 Jul 2021 12:26 pm

@smoulder

I found it on Carousell but did my thorough research, checks before investing.

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Re: PR approval chance in 2020

Post by smoulder » Sun, 11 Jul 2021 12:30 pm

Thanks techgal. Interesting.

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Re: PR approval chance in 2020

Post by maddyjojo » Wed, 21 Jul 2021 7:49 pm

"Hi All,

My wife & daughter application is approved. I do have some questions on completing PR formalities. Is there anyone recently completed PR formalities under spouse scheme that i can message?

Below is the timeline ,

Application submitted: 10th March 2020
Additional document request (Family CV) : 31st Dec 2020
Submit button disappearance: 12th July 2021
iEnquiry status change from Pending: 19th July 2021 (Dated 16th July)
Physical IPA letter: 21st July 2021
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Thanks all and good luck for ur PR application. Hope all ur dreams come true
Hi All,

I see several post getting replied. Any update on my below query? feeling little anxious here :)


Appreciate if you could see the possibility of getting PR approved for my spouse and for my 3yr old daughter (Born in India). below are the details.
Update :
"I applied on March and status is pending. Last week they asked for additional documents to submit (Family CV) which i did. What are my family chances to obtain the PR?"

Sponsor details:
Age: 34
Nationality: Indian
Residential status: Singapore PR since 2007
Education: Diploma at Temasek (Full time), Bachelors at UNISA (Part time)
Working experience in SG: Since 2007 (Same company)
Salary: 82K (basic), 95K with bonus
Industry: Laser Equipment Manufacturing
marriage year: 2014


Wife:
Age: 30
Nationality: Indian
Education : MBA (India)
working exp in SG: 3 yrs
Salary: 2k per month
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