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Citizenship Rejected (Appeal or Re-Apply) - Advice

Posted: Wed, 17 Apr 2019 5:18 pm
by Vulcan
Hi All,

My application for Citizenship has been rejected recently. I would like to know, if we can appeal after rejection and what is the procedure for it ?

Online Submission Mar2018
Document Submission: Aug2018
Application Rejected: Mar2019

Here is my profile.
Male , Age: 41
Applied as whole Family of 4 (Indian family in PR status for past 12 years in Singapore)
Job profile: Leadership role in MNC
Family: Spouse working in IT & 2 Kids (Both Girls) studying in public/local school
Annual Income above 240K+
Education : Masters (Engg) - Full time from US, Spouse Bachelors (Engg) + Local Poly Specialist Diploma
Length of stay in Singapore : 12+ years.
Own apartment in private housing
Worked in Grassroot level for 4+ years.

I do understand granting of citizenship is based on several factors, if you have any suggestion for any improvements kindly share. Also is it worth to re-apply again ? Please suggest your inputs.

Thanks,

Re: Citizenship Rejected (Appeal or Re-Apply) - Advice

Posted: Wed, 17 Apr 2019 8:18 pm
by homecleaner
Ask your member of parliament for help.

Re: Citizenship Rejected (Appeal or Re-Apply) - Advice

Posted: Wed, 17 Apr 2019 9:32 pm
by sundaymorningstaple
He doesn't have a member of parliament as he's only a EP holder. Anyway, even if he was able to get a letter written by an MP, it wouldn't make any difference as they have absolutely no power when it comes to ICA. They take their order from a higher authority.

Re: Citizenship Rejected (Appeal or Re-Apply) - Advice

Posted: Wed, 17 Apr 2019 9:54 pm
by Vulcan
sundaymorningstaple wrote:He doesn't have a member of parliament as he's only a EP holder. Anyway, even if he was able to get a letter written by an MP, it wouldn't make any difference as they have absolutely no power when it comes to ICA. They take their order from a higher authority.
I am not a EP holder but a PR for past 12+ years. Also I would not go to MP for such request and It is not fair to ask such letters. Agree with you ICA is final decision authority.

Any advice on how to appeal or what factor could have impacted my application ? Pls share your experiences.

Re: Citizenship Rejected (Appeal or Re-Apply) - Advice

Posted: Wed, 17 Apr 2019 11:43 pm
by singaporeflyer
Vulcan wrote:
sundaymorningstaple wrote:He doesn't have a member of parliament as he's only a EP holder. Anyway, even if he was able to get a letter written by an MP, it wouldn't make any difference as they have absolutely no power when it comes to ICA. They take their order from a higher authority.
I am not a EP holder but a PR for past 12+ years. Also I would not go to MP for such request and It is not fair to ask such letters. Agree with you ICA is final decision authority.

Any advice on how to appeal or what factor could have impacted my application ? Pls share your experiences.
Length of stay in Singapore and PR length = 12 years? You got your PR immediately after you arrived.

Appeals do not help at all, unless you have missed to declare or show something very significant during your application

Are you still in grassroots?

Looks like you have to wait for a couple of years and reapply.

what is your exact role? that will offer some clue. Example: If it is marketing/sales, it is not going to be considered great.

Annual income - 240K. It is not clear if that is your annual income or your combined family income.

Own apartment in private/public housing does not add any value to the application.

You have not clearly described details here..

Re: Citizenship Rejected (Appeal or Re-Apply) - Advice

Posted: Thu, 18 Apr 2019 8:20 am
by therat
During 2007 time, EP apply for PR after 3 mth in Singapore and got in within few month.
My ex colleague got PR for his whole family within 6 mth in Singapore. 1.5 yrs later migrated to USA

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Re: Citizenship Rejected (Appeal or Re-Apply) - Advice

Posted: Thu, 18 Apr 2019 9:39 am
by Vulcan
singaporeflyer wrote:
Vulcan wrote:
sundaymorningstaple wrote:He doesn't have a member of parliament as he's only a EP holder. Anyway, even if he was able to get a letter written by an MP, it wouldn't make any difference as they have absolutely no power when it comes to ICA. They take their order from a higher authority.
I am not a EP holder but a PR for past 12+ years. Also I would not go to MP for such request and It is not fair to ask such letters. Agree with you ICA is final decision authority.

Any advice on how to appeal or what factor could have impacted my application ? Pls share your experiences.
Length of stay in Singapore and PR length = 12 years? You got your PR immediately after you arrived.

- Answer: My PR approved after a year. I was referring only my Stay in Singapore as PR for 12 years. and 2+ years as EP before that. So total = 14.

Appeals do not help at all, unless you have missed to declare or show something very significant during your application

Are you still in grassroots?
- Answer: Yes I am

Looks like you have to wait for a couple of years and reapply.


what is your exact role? that will offer some clue. Example: If it is marketing/sales, it is not going to be considered great.

- Answer: My role is Senior Engineering manager for TechGaint company that makes in Consumer products

Annual income - 240K. It is not clear if that is your annual income or your combined family income.

- Answer: No, it is not combined.

Own apartment in private/public housing does not add any value to the application.

- Answer: Understand your point, Thanks.

You have not clearly described details here..

Re: Citizenship Rejected (Appeal or Re-Apply) - Advice

Posted: Thu, 18 Apr 2019 10:47 am
by worldcitizen
Appeal - Existing wisdom says (and I tend to agree) it doesn't work. But no harm trying as the new application process is expected to take a few years more.
Recommendation letters / Grass Roots - Honestly, these won't work and it's just a matter of coincidence if anyone says it did IMHO.

Re: Citizenship Rejected (Appeal or Re-Apply) - Advice

Posted: Thu, 18 Apr 2019 11:08 am
by Vulcan
worldcitizen wrote:Appeal - Existing wisdom says (and I tend to agree) it doesn't work. But no harm trying as the new application process is expected to take a few years more.
Recommendation letters / Grass Roots - Honestly, these won't work and it's just a matter of coincidence if anyone says it did IMHO.
Thanks for your opinion. So seems appeal is not the way to go.

Re: Citizenship Rejected (Appeal or Re-Apply) - Advice

Posted: Thu, 18 Apr 2019 2:15 pm
by singaporeflyer
worldcitizen wrote:Appeal - Existing wisdom says (and I tend to agree) it doesn't work. But no harm trying as the new application process is expected to take a few years more.
On what grounds will he appeal?

Re: Citizenship Rejected (Appeal or Re-Apply) - Advice

Posted: Thu, 18 Apr 2019 3:45 pm
by worldcitizen
None :). Personally, I think it's useless but saw a couple of successful cases without any improvement or changes in their situation. It's a calculated risk of waiting few months with appeal vs few years with a new application. End of the day it's up to OP and all I can say is good luck.

Re: Citizenship Rejected (Appeal or Re-Apply) - Advice

Posted: Thu, 18 Apr 2019 9:41 pm
by freddykeat
Hey OP,

I have the similar encounter for my citizenship application with an appeal, ICA allocated a new appointment for me to resubmit my application after 6 months and after the application submitted, I have waited for 9 months and I got a good news from ICA.

I would suggest you to go for the appeal and provide good reason why they should reconsider your citizenship application. Despite the chances is not high but at least we have tried and if you are not the lucky one then do it again after 2 years.

If you never try, it will never happen. The authority hold the decision making and the opportunity is on our hand. We should maximize our opportunity without any doubts.

Good luck.

Re: Citizenship Rejected (Appeal or Re-Apply) - Advice

Posted: Fri, 19 Apr 2019 9:31 am
by worldcitizen
Congrats. Came across similar experiences (i.e. Succesful appeals)recently and guess only ICA knows why they changed their mind.

Re: Citizenship Rejected (Appeal or Re-Apply) - Advice

Posted: Fri, 19 Apr 2019 8:09 pm
by singaporeflyer
freddykeat wrote:Hey OP,

I have the similar encounter for my citizenship application with an appeal, ICA allocated a new appointment for me to resubmit my application after 6 months and after the application submitted, I have waited for 9 months and I got a good news from ICA.

I would suggest you to go for the appeal and provide good reason why they should reconsider your citizenship application. Despite the chances is not high but at least we have tried and if you are not the lucky one then do it again after 2 years.

If you never try, it will never happen. The authority hold the decision making and the opportunity is on our hand. We should maximize our opportunity without any doubts.

Good luck.
Guess you are from Malaysia right? That is considered a good advantage, whereas OP is from India.

Re: Citizenship Rejected (Appeal or Re-Apply) - Advice

Posted: Mon, 22 Apr 2019 1:24 pm
by freddykeat
Yes, I am from Malaysia.