Relocating, travelling or planning to make Singapore home? Discuss the criterias, passes or visa that is required.
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by MOCHS » Tue, 14 Jan 2025 3:18 pm
If everything else is the same except race, and no pay raise or change in job, then I’m gonna lean towards maybe not.
There are plenty of PRCs who get rejected for PR too.
ICA looks at many other factors, not just race alone. How integrated are you with SG society?
Re-applying right after changing your race with no other substantial improvements to your profile, it’s already quite obvious you are trying to use CMIO quota to your advantage.
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by Potato321 » Tue, 14 Jan 2025 4:24 pm
@MOCHS Thank you for your comment. I understand that reapplying PR within 6 months is considered appeal application. As ICA mentioned in website that, "if there are changes to your circumstances, you may submit fresh application". So, I just taking this opportunity, for reconsideration under C category.
As for integration part, we did some volunteers work when we got a helper to look after my son. My wife did some blood donations here.
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by Potato321 » Tue, 14 Jan 2025 4:40 pm
@MOCHS Just to add in that, I've applied PR a few times only with wrong race and all are rejected. I think this time should be right race after investing 14 years in SG.
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by smoulder » Tue, 14 Jan 2025 5:40 pm
Lol seriously? Physical appearance is a way for the ICA to verify that you are Chinese? I look Caucasian, but my IC says Indian - I wonder why I never thought of getting myself some white privilege by turning up at Kallang and changing my identity to Caucasian.
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by MOCHS » Wed, 15 Jan 2025 6:24 am
Potato321 wrote: ↑Tue, 14 Jan 2025 4:24 pm
As for integration part, we did some volunteers work when we got a helper to look after my son. My wife did some blood donations here.
ICA doesn’t care about volunteering or blood donations as volunteering has been abused by a certain nationality years ago. This is a misconception that needs to stop.
lol since when does having a domestic helper mean you have integrated?
I’m talking about living and eating like the locals. If you stay in an expat enclave and send kid to
International School, are you really integrating?
There are plenty of people who stayed here for more than 10 years and still cannot get PR. Changing your race isn’t a magic pill that will give you PR.
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by Potato321 » Wed, 15 Jan 2025 8:34 am
@MOCHS
Appreciate your comment.
I think there is totally no issue of living and eating styles for us since we have been here for one and half decades. I living in HDB and not sending my kid to
International Schools.
I wanted to highlight here is that there has been wrong race for the past 13 years as a mistake. Finally, it turns out to be correct which I should be in initially. It may not a magic pill, I think.
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by malcontent » Wed, 15 Jan 2025 1:41 pm
We have seen similar posts, for example, I recall an Indonesian Chinese that didn’t know they should simply list Chinese as their race… so I don’t think your case is unprecedented. We have also seen cases where race was changed to Chinese and the applicant was challenged by the ICA to provide proof. As long as you have that, I don’t imagine it will be an issue. The fact that the main applicant in your case has consistently been classified as Chinese should make your race change less contentious as well.
If it doesn’t get approved, I believe it would be more about how they view Myanmar nationals integrating and succeeding here (they’d probably look at the track record of others with your kind of background, as well as things unique to you).
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by Potato321 » Thu, 16 Jan 2025 10:50 am
Thanks for your comment. @malcontent
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by capt_ricola » Sat, 18 Jan 2025 12:50 am
Hi everyone, would like to know what are my chances of getting my PR Approved (Applied on November 2024):
1. Profile: Male Indonesian Malay (My Stepdad is Malay Singaporean and my Biological mother is Indonesian)
2. Age: 27
3. Visa Status: Currently on E-Pass
4. Education background: Completed my PSLE, O-Level, Polytechnic and University all in Singapore.
To summarise, I have just graduated from NTU in 2023. Prior to that, I was studying in neighbourhood primary and secondary schools and then to Temasek Poly.
I have been staying in Singapore ever since P5 until now. My step-dad and step-siblings are originally Singaporeans, only my mum and I are Indonesians.
Tried to apply for PR back then when I was in Poly but unfortunately it was rejected. I have never tried to apply anymore as the MP advised me to re-apply again once I have my degree and start working.
So yes, its been 2 months and a bit nervous for the results. Anyone have or share the same experience?
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by darkdra771 » Thu, 08 May 2025 12:18 am
Hi @Potato321 ,
I saw from your posts that you manage to change the race from Burmese to Chinese. I'm currently intending to change my race to Chinese to with a pending PR application. Do you mind sharing who did you contact and what documents you provide?
Thanks and good luck with your application!
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by RikkuG » Thu, 08 May 2025 10:29 am
darkdra771 wrote: ↑Thu, 08 May 2025 12:18 am
Hi @Potato321 ,
I saw from your posts that you manage to change the race from Burmese to Chinese. I'm currently intending to change my race to Chinese to with a pending PR application. Do you mind sharing who did you contact and what documents you provide?
Thanks and good luck with your application!
I had the same situation during my application.
Since you're holding an MOM work pass, you should update your Race here. MOM will ask you for documentation.
https://form.gov.sg/67dbe0516eea0a6c973104bc
Note that on the new PR system, this information will be obtained from your Singpass when you create the draft. I'm not sure if this will change when an application is already submitted and in progress.
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by darkdra771 » Thu, 08 May 2025 11:59 pm
RikkuG wrote: ↑Thu, 08 May 2025 10:29 am
I had the same situation during my application.
Since you're holding an MOM work pass, you should update your Race here. MOM will ask you for documentation.
https://form.gov.sg/67dbe0516eea0a6c973104bc
Note that on the new PR system, this information will be obtained from your Singpass when you create the draft. I'm not sure if this will change when an application is already submitted and in progress.
Thanks for the helpful link
@RikkuG,
Does MOM ask for specific documentations? What I have on hand is my grandma's SG PR IC which shows the race as Chinese and my family register which shows the link from me to my mom and my mom to my grandma. Wondering if that would be enough.
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by RikkuG » Sat, 10 May 2025 9:20 am
darkdra771 wrote: ↑Thu, 08 May 2025 11:59 pm
Thanks for the helpful link @RikkuG,
Does MOM ask for specific documentations? What I have on hand is my grandma's SG PR IC which shows the race as Chinese and my family register which shows the link from me to my mom and my mom to my grandma. Wondering if that would be enough.
Edit : the wording from the officer was: "birth certificate, school testimonial, or your parents’ official documents"
Though the family register should help plus you got your grandma's credentials. In my case I submitted my grandpa's papers (especially his Overseas Chinese Registration) and simply linked this to my parents' birth certificates to myself (we don't have family registers in the PH).
Keep in mind that you need to have non-English documents translated, notarised and legalised first.
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