Posted: Tue, 06 Feb 2007 1:55 pm
Singapore Expats Forum
I wouldn't call it antagonistic, more frustration and disappointed, That in Magret Thatchers day, when unemployment was high, back in late 70's, she told everyone to get off their back sides and travel to find work, many of us did, leaving our properties behind, only to return to a policy of segregation.ksl wrote:Seriously, you make many good posts but sometimes it come across as antagonistic towards USA or Britain
ok KSL...as far as corruption...america is far better a place to do business then most places...it's the only place where companies will have specific anti-nepotism policies (they will not hire you if you are a current relative of someone already employed. in order to succeed and become wealthier then you could ever imagine...you don't need connections and you don't need to come from a high society. you can really be a rags to riches story. this happens to many, many people. In China, if you don't have the proper connections you aren't going anywhere in life. u have to win the genetic lottery plain and simple. same goes for most asian countries.
huggybear wrote:That cost of war is based on congressional appriopriations only. there are other opportunity costs. The solider who is now making $20,000 while in Iraq could be have been making $100,000 as a scientist for Roche Pharmaceuticals. The loss of income is a hardship on the family and they have to cut down on consumer spending. Plus in his line of work he could have created a new product (cure for leukemia??). The true cost to society is more a long the lines of $3 trillion to be honest i think.
As for the UK, they feel a sense of entitlement (to me it seems) to have the gov't provide for "services" for "free." but then i don't know why all british people have bad teeth if the dentist is free.
Dentists are not part of the National Health System anymore, so there are no freebie's for employed people, although those on what they call income support may qualify I think, or are getting full disability allowance. not sure these days, because i have never had to claim it.As for the UK, they feel a sense of entitlement (to me it seems) to have the gov't provide for "services" for "free." but then i don't know why all british people have bad teeth if the dentist is free.
Okay you may be correct. Also India may be a case in point for you. But I still believe, if Indonesia (and China) is concerned benevolent dictatorship is what they needed. There will be no end of corruption and government subsidies, without a strong governance, and in an environment where huge diversity is part of the game, this can only be achieved with that style. I hope I'm wrong and SBY can do it for Indo, but as I said earlier I believe we should have a stronger (and longer lasting) government.huggybear wrote:i agree with KMS here (is it bad to revive old topics that are 4 mos old??)
chinese investments = russian roulette.
i don't think it's true that you have to have a benevolent dictator in power to achieve growth. you just need good intentioned people in government that crack down on corruption and end government subsidies. look at poland or czech republic.
I shouldn't pick a fight here, but here are the difference other than 1 billion people:huggybear wrote:the only reason china is successful is because all corporations drool looking at market of 1 billion people to consume their products. how is china different then iraq other then having a billion people in a closed economy?
I think this is incorrect. When Sadaam Hussein was in power he used the same tactics the chinese government uses to control the people. Torture / kill dissidents. Control the media / press. And progressive communists? what are you joking? china has about 500 million unemployed rural workers that they don't do anything for! china's economy was collasping and it had no one to turn to for help as Russia collapsed and couldn't provide aid.DimWit Kid wrote:
I shouldn't pick a fight here, but here are the difference other than 1 billion people:
- China is governed by progressive communist, government that can hold its control over the whole country.
- Iraq is governed by a bunch of puppet who can't even secure their cities.
Dentists are no longer 'free' in the UK; what you are talking about is the National Health Service more popularly known as the NHS under which the service to the patient is free at the point of use (nearly everybody in the UK pays a National Insurance or N.I charge which is automatically deducted from our wages - credited automatically if you are unemployed). Under this system the dentist send off to the authorities for the cost of treatement. However, many thanks to that bitch Thatcher found or at least found it economically unviable. The result is most dentist now no longer to NHS work unless in the case of some you are unemployed, retired, disabled and in reciept of certain state benefits. Hope this clarifies the issue albeit off topic.huggybear wrote: As for the UK, they feel a sense of entitlement (to me it seems) to have the gov't provide for "services" for "free." but then i don't know why all british people have bad teeth if the dentist is free.