ok... i got it....the lynx wrote:He's trying to help you to avoid a potentially 'double whammy' situation.
Remember, there is NO guarantee that you will get to renew your REP if your citizenship application got rejected.
Sometime I wonder whether what I wrote is too simple to understand or it became too complicated to understand that it needs to be simplify.e2power wrote:ok... i got it....the lynx wrote:He's trying to help you to avoid a potentially 'double whammy' situation.
Remember, there is NO guarantee that you will get to renew your REP if your citizenship application got rejected.
i understand there is no guarantee for everything right? but does it mean if i get the citizenship application rejected, will this significantly lower the chance?
i read somewhere that there is invitation to apply for citizenship. if i do not get the invitation does this mean my chance is lower?
BTW, here is my profile:
Indon Chinese Male, Single, 39, US educated (both Bachelor and Master from top US uni), part time degree from Aussie uni done in SG (Master). Earning $10K+ now, own morgaged HDB with my sis for the past 8 years now. Our mom is here with LT pass. Been here since 1999, on landed PR scheme.
I have got my first renewal in 2003. So next year will be my second renewal.Mad Scientist wrote:
1. PR renewal is based on 5 year tenure. You have to get your first renewal done before you can even proceed to do other things. No REP NO NEED TO KNOW ABOUT CITIZENSHIP.
I'm of mixed feelings about this. In theory, you should be in good shape to apply now with no problems. You tick all the right boxes and have been here as an LPR for 13 years already. I don't think being single is a real problem although you age, well, let's say, doesn't lead one to believing that you can contribute to the TFR here which is a primary concern for the granting of Citizenship. What impetus is there for the Government to give you Citizenship? Taxes? They are already getting that. In fact, in your current situation, you create additional liabilities to them instead of your becoming an asset as you are not producing any offspring to renew the population at all.e2power wrote:I have got my first renewal in 2003. So next year will be my second renewal.Mad Scientist wrote:
1. PR renewal is based on 5 year tenure. You have to get your first renewal done before you can even proceed to do other things. No REP NO NEED TO KNOW ABOUT CITIZENSHIP.
I think that MS mis-read your post. You had a 5 year REP initially when you came in on LPR (which is actually part of the PTS Scheme, not the Family Ties Scheme). At the time of your 1st renewal, they gave you a 10-year REP which is coming up for renewal in 2013 which will mean you will have been a PR for around 13 or 14 years at renewal. Well over the 6 year/1st renewal for optimum application for citizenship. How'em I doin' so far?
In the other reply, you suggested to do it after the second renewal. I understand this from the Risk Mitigation strategy (to avoid double whammy effect). But in this reply, you mentioned that "REP no need to know about the citizenship"
So I am a bit confuse here, if applying citizenship has no "effect" for the chance for my REP get renewed, perhaps it is better to quickly submit the application and hope that I do not need to go through the hazzle for REP renewal next year?
Am I missing something?
BTW, you mentioned about "You came under family ties". I do not think I got my PR based on family ties, I believe I was under this :
In-Principle PR Application – under which international talents who reside outside of Singapore and are interested in living, studying or working here, may apply for approval (in-principle).
Sms thanks for the feedback. That's my worry too, as I aged.sundaymorningstaple wrote:I'm of mixed feelings about this. In theory, you should be in good shape to apply now with no problems. You tick all the right boxes and have been here as an LPR for 13 years already. I don't think being single is a real problem although you age, well, let's say, doesn't lead one to believing that you can contribute to the TFR here which is a primary concern for the granting of Citizenship. What impetus is there for the Government to give you Citizenship? Taxes? They are already getting that. In fact, in your current situation, you create additional liabilities to them instead of your becoming an asset as you are not producing any offspring to renew the population at all.e2power wrote:I have got my first renewal in 2003. So next year will be my second renewal.Mad Scientist wrote:
1. PR renewal is based on 5 year tenure. You have to get your first renewal done before you can even proceed to do other things. No REP NO NEED TO KNOW ABOUT CITIZENSHIP.
I think that MS mis-read your post. You had a 5 year REP initially when you came in on LPR (which is actually part of the PTS Scheme, not the Family Ties Scheme). At the time of your 1st renewal, they gave you a 10-year REP which is coming up for renewal in 2013 which will mean you will have been a PR for around 13 or 14 years at renewal. Well over the 6 year/1st renewal for optimum application for citizenship. How'em I doin' so far?
In the other reply, you suggested to do it after the second renewal. I understand this from the Risk Mitigation strategy (to avoid double whammy effect). But in this reply, you mentioned that "REP no need to know about the citizenship"
So I am a bit confuse here, if applying citizenship has no "effect" for the chance for my REP get renewed, perhaps it is better to quickly submit the application and hope that I do not need to go through the hazzle for REP renewal next year?
Am I missing something?
BTW, you mentioned about "You came under family ties". I do not think I got my PR based on family ties, I believe I was under this :
In-Principle PR Application – under which international talents who reside outside of Singapore and are interested in living, studying or working here, may apply for approval (in-principle).
With that in view, if I were the government, I would have to think long and hard even renewing your REP again as it is obvious you never had any intentions of taking up citizenship until push came to shove. So, looking at it totally objectively, while coming from a different thought process, I come to the same conclusion as MS in so much as you might want to ensure your survival here for at least 5 more years. As you have read here I'm sure, we have already seen some who have not had their REPs renewed for reasons, at this point, unknown to us. But it is happening. Sorry, but you know me, I tell it like I see it. I hope I'm wrong, but my gut is pretty strange that way.
sms
And how long have you been PR and how many times have you had your REP renewed SMS?sundaymorningstaple wrote:
I'm of mixed feelings about this. In theory, you should be in good shape to apply now with no problems. You tick all the right boxes and have been here as an LPR for 13 years already. I don't think being single is a real problem although you age, well, let's say, doesn't lead one to believing that you can contribute to the TFR here which is a primary concern for the granting of Citizenship. What impetus is there for the Government to give you Citizenship? Taxes? They are already getting that. In fact, in your current situation, you create additional liabilities to them instead of your becoming an asset as you are not producing any offspring to renew the population at all.
With that in view, if I were the government, I would have to think long and hard even renewing your REP again as it is obvious you never had any intentions of taking up citizenship until push came to shove. So, looking at it totally objectively, while coming from a different thought process, I come to the same conclusion as MS in so much as you might want to ensure your survival here for at least 5 more years. As you have read here I'm sure, we have already seen some who have not had their REPs renewed for reasons, at this point, unknown to us. But it is happening. Sorry, but you know me, I tell it like I see it. I hope I'm wrong, but my gut is pretty strange that way.
sms
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