Cool, thanks for confirming this. Its always good to get a second opinion on such crucial topics.sundaymorningstaple wrote:The biggest insight I can give you is do NOT burn his bridges for him, thinking you are doing him a favour. Additionally, while not a guarantee, there would be nothing stopping the government from, for some unknown reason, not renewing your re-entry permits at some point in the future if they figure out that you are deliberately trying to screw the government here. Additionally, you will find that, while it is possible, once he reaches the age of 21, he's screwed as he'll not be able to stay in Singapore unless he qualifies for an EP in his own right. Assuming he's just finished tertiary schooling around that age, he's not going to be able to qualify for an EP without experience AND he will NOT be given an LTVP so you will effectively banish him from every working or residing in Singapore even if he has a change of heart.
Let him do NS here and that way, no bridges are burned and he creates a network in the military here that will last him a lifetime and if he wants to then leave Singapore, the door will always be open to return, if he qualifies. I cannot stress the importance of this enough. Stop and think about how he's going to love you if you make his decisions for him and then later in life in falls in love with a local girl but because of your ill-thought out plans, he's going to have to leave the country and she might not be able to. How? If you are planning to stay here, I would suggest that you give this a lot of thought and read a lot of the threads in the Strictly Speaking subforum of those who thought as you did and screwed up their sons lives, either from scheming, or lack of planning, or lack of foresight.
Yes, my son did his national service and he's a better man because of it.
Not applying for it until he is older? He might not get it. Then he will have to be on an LTVP (if they give him one - again, not a guarantee) until such time as he starts schooling and then, if he's lucky, he can stay on a student's visa until he finishes school, then he will be given a 30 day social visit pass and after that he will have to leave the country. As we don't know how far they are willing to go to prove a point, we do know that they have very long memories. Do a search on the Internet on "The Piano Man" (he was a citizen who immigrated to the UK many, many years ago and then came back to Singapore when he was in his 40's a couple of years ago.).
I was skirting THAT issue as the OP had not volunteered their nationality. :-/bro75 wrote:PR approval is not a mere formality for children of some PRs. PR rejection rates of children are high for certain nationalities (based on my experience and other anecdotal evidence). You can still apply and see for yourself.
sundaymorningstaple wrote:I was skirting THAT issue as the OP had not volunteered their nationality. :-/bro75 wrote:PR approval is not a mere formality for children of some PRs. PR rejection rates of children are high for certain nationalities (based on my experience and other anecdotal evidence). You can still apply and see for yourself.
That is also a very distinct possibility and is a way to almost force the parents to give up their PR, especially if they are of certain ethnic groups that the government now wishes they could thin out somewhat.
It's the new normal I think.wwww wrote:sundaymorningstaple wrote:I was skirting THAT issue as the OP had not volunteered their nationality. :-/bro75 wrote:PR approval is not a mere formality for children of some PRs. PR rejection rates of children are high for certain nationalities (based on my experience and other anecdotal evidence). You can still apply and see for yourself.
That is also a very distinct possibility and is a way to almost force the parents to give up their PR, especially if they are of certain ethnic groups that the government now wishes they could thin out somewhat.
It has been three months since we applied for the PR of our newborn, but so far the application is still pending. While I am aware that this is still not a very long duration for a PR application, it still surprises me that the gahmen would take that long to mull over my son's PR.
Our own PRs have been approved within 4 months in 2012 (which was relatively fast back then). We are Swiss and Japanese (our son has both nationalities) so we should, to my knowledge, not be part of the "unwanted" nationalities (correct me if I am wrong).
Should I get worried about my REP, or is this the new normal?
Thanks
Thanks SMS.zzm9980 wrote:Depends on the income level I assume in your case. I wouldn't worry yet, but do update us.
Do update us then on what happens.wwww wrote:Thanks SMS.zzm9980 wrote:Depends on the income level I assume in your case. I wouldn't worry yet, but do update us.
According to my and my wife's 2014 tax statements, we made roughly 200k together. So this should hopefully not be an issue...
Pretty much yes. it the boy is a PR. If he is not a PR then all that SMS says above may apply if an LTVP applies. IF you have a son and then leave Singapore ASAP and don't renew your REP (i.e. cancel PR) there are not likely to be long term issues IMO.kwy wrote:I had always understood that children (boys) of PR parents are required to do military service.
Am I wrong?
Is it only if the child is PR in his own right?
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